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Old November 28th, 2003, 01:02 AM   #16
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It was said of Picasso that he could paint a stroke on a canvas and charge a lot for it when ask why it was not the stroke it was that little signature on the bottom of the painting.
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Old November 28th, 2003, 01:46 AM   #17
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But he was also some painter, "professional," you might say. :-)

I met one of his students once, back in the 70's. He was a Canadian Inuit.
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Old November 28th, 2003, 01:55 AM   #18
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"Professional" describes the trade/r and not the tool.
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Old November 28th, 2003, 02:13 AM   #19
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He was a famous Inuit artist who had studied under Picasso. I can't recall his name at the moment. I also studied art and one of the fellow students was Jackson Beardy (don't know if that's spelled right). He was very quiet, long long hair, and became famous as a native artist. His teacher, and mine, was Steve Repa. But I beleve that later, Jackson also studied with another famous artist named George Morisetie (that's not spelled right either). I met George in the early 80's in Downtown Vancouver.
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Old November 28th, 2003, 03:13 AM   #20
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I might have already posted this elsewhere on the DVinfo.net Community, but my favorite definition of a professional is "someone who can deliver good work on a bad day."

Gear is less material to professionalism than competence and attitude. Yesterday's professional equipment is today's child's toy.

When it comes to video equipment, the word professional usually signifies an expectation of better reliability and durability over a greater range of operating conditions.
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Old November 28th, 2003, 03:48 PM   #21
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Many years ago, In an attempt to define a standard for who qualifies as a professional photographer, some organization (I don’t remember who), decided “a professional is anyone who produces at least of 50% of their total income from taking pictures”. It did not state anything about equipment.

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Old November 28th, 2003, 04:37 PM   #22
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...some organization...decided "a professional is anyone who produces at least of 50% of their total income from taking pictures."
My take on professional is, using the right tool for the right job; the end product result should be more than acceptable in terms of quality; getting paid for the job or being appreciated for the job. The last wedding I went to had 2 clowns claiming to be professionals. I could see right away that the photo guy had the wrong tool/s, including the film and film format, and did not have even a clue what he was doing. The video guy had the right cam, but that's the only thing right about his skills. Both got paid big bucks, by the way. But the bride and groom both wanted blood. But stupid them, they signed a contract and paid most of the money up front. My wife is so p*ssed at the bride because the bride was so ingrateful about her setting up the reception hall, and making everything work. All my wife keeps saying is, after she saw the video and pictures, is imitating what the bride keeps saying: "Me hire prOOOfessional for prOOOfessional pictOOORs because dey go to my country and his country." What a laugh---er, I mean sad. :-)

So, even though these 2 guys are hired as professionals on a regular basis by unsuspecting suckers, I don't think the title of "professional" applies.
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Old November 29th, 2003, 02:21 PM   #23
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I thought my last post was funny. :-(
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Old December 15th, 2003, 07:42 PM   #24
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Well, I guess I am neither a professional photographer nor videographer cuz I only get about 40% of my income from each. :-)

(the rest being print-oriented pieces and miscellaneous A/V projects)

Oh well, my paycheck doesn't seem to bounce anyway.
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Old December 15th, 2003, 08:41 PM   #25
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Lately, I've been sleeping more than shooting, or anything else for that matter. So videography is more of a pipe dream at this time than a professional pursuit. :-)

You have to love Vancouver's rainy season.
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Old December 15th, 2003, 09:16 PM   #26
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Sleep……..what’s that? I heard about it once, then I chose to become an imaging professional. Haven’t ever slept since, either because I have too much work or not enough. They both have the same effect.

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Any Machinist Mate with a S400, 10D, digital video camera, a/v experience, JBL cabinets for monitors in a 10’x10’ office, and knows what “show blacks” are is a professional in my book…..oh yea, you have a tractor too. If I need a shooter in your area I’m calling you. Just bring the liquor.

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Old December 16th, 2003, 01:49 PM   #27
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Hey Steve,

Bringin' the booze, that's the easy part. :-) Even to PHX.

Wow, not only do you read my posts, you remember them! Scary! Just one detail, the JBLs are at home, cuz there's only room for the KEFs at work. :-)

Now I just need to figure out how to integrate the tractor into my multimedia biz so I can write it off on my taxes!

BTW, your website struck a responsive chord with me; so many hotel A/V departments just don't "get it" when it comes to corp events (speaking of not sleeping)!

Thanks for the shout-out, major props right back at ya.
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I know a LOT of professionals who would argue the Webster's definition about making a living from their work. Many of these people make more money waiting tables to pay their bills in between acting gigs, and would take great offense to webster's rather narrow definition.

I would prefer to think that a professional is anyone who has a passion for their work, and demonstrates that passion in the quality of the delivered product that exceeds ordinary standards.
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Old December 17th, 2003, 11:37 PM   #29
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Mike,

Mount one of those $69.00 wireless X10 video cameras to the front of your tractor and it becomes your businesses mobile video security device. The IRS wont bat an eye. Very professional.

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Old December 18th, 2003, 03:12 AM   #30
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So this mean a band-aid is a professional medical tool in my hands and a professional betacam in my hands means I would be utterly confused.
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