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Wajahat Abbasi May 20th, 2009 07:31 AM

what camera are using for motion pictures?
 
Hi guys .. i am a miniDV camera user and just saw a crew shooting for the movie SALT , they had 3-4 large camera .. was just wondering what kind of cameras do they use .. i tried searching it online and wasnt sure how to look for it ... what camera are used in motion pictures? what price range?

Adam Gold May 20th, 2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Wajahat Abbasi (Post 1145813)
what camera are used in motion pictures? what price range?

35mm Film. A few hundred grand per.

Usually it's something like this:

http://www.panavision.com/product_de...de=c0,c3,c4,c5

Sometimes they use video, in which case it might be something like a Sony F950, F900, or F23:

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HDWF900R/

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-bro...a/product-F23/

Many TV dramas and some comedies (comedies are usually shot on tape but some still use film) use something like this:

http://www.panavision.com/product_de...c100,c101,c102

Wajahat Abbasi May 20th, 2009 01:46 PM

wow these are expensive. .. why r they THIS expensive ..compared to some very cheap camera like Canon xl2 ... which claims to do pretty good job at film look... ?

Adam Gold May 20th, 2009 01:59 PM

For the same reason a Ferrari is more expensive than a Yugo.

But your point is well-taken ... there is some amazing technology available to us that was unheard of ten years ago.

Wajahat Abbasi May 20th, 2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam Gold (Post 1145965)
For the same reason a Ferrari is more expensive than a Yugo.

But your point is well-taken ... there is some amazing technology available to us that was unheard of ten years ago.

is there differnnce in media too ??? dose that matter a lot too on price? what make these camera sooo dammm expensive?

Brian Drysdale May 20th, 2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wajahat Abbasi (Post 1145970)
is there differnnce in media too ??? dose that matter a lot too on price? what make these camera sooo dammm expensive?

The lenses are also expensive. A number of factors come in such as build quality, the size of the market. The high end professional market is a lot more demanding and is a lot smaller than the mass consumer market. There's a lot of R & D which has to be spread over a smaller number of units and specifications are demanding.

The RED camera costs less, but it doesn't have the expensive specialised VTR, rather it uses computer technology which has it's R & D costs spread over a larger number of units such as hard drives which also have a market in IT.

Most productions rent their 35mm film cameras, you can't buy a Panavision camera.

Tape stock for the high end cameras is more expensive, but so are other costs.

You can get a lot for your money on the consumer camera and prosumer cameras

Wajahat Abbasi May 21st, 2009 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Drysdale (Post 1146014)
The lenses are also expensive. A number of factors come in such as build quality, the size of the market. The high end professional market is a lot more demanding and is a lot smaller than the mass consumer market. There's a lot of R & D which has to be spread over a smaller number of units and specifications are demanding.

The RED camera costs less, but it doesn't have the expensive specialised VTR, rather it uses computer technology which has it's R & D costs spread over a larger number of units such as hard drives which also have a market in IT.

Most productions rent their 35mm film cameras, you can't buy a Panavision camera.

Tape stock for the high end cameras is more expensive, but so are other costs.

You can get a lot for your money on the consumer camera and prosumer cameras

thats a lot of information.. ! thanks !

TingSern Wong May 29th, 2009 10:22 PM

I think there is something else left unsaid ... the picture quality, the depth of view (or rather, lack of) that comes with the large 35mm film / sensor size - that you cannot get using a smaller sized sensor. Therefore, the Canon XL2 will most likely represent the pinnacle of performance that you can EVER get out of a mini DV format. Even HD cameras using 1/3" CCD or CMOS are unlikely EVER to approach the quality of a 35mm Panavision film camera. You can only push electronics so much. Panavision also has 70mm film as well - how does that compares with a tiny 1/3 inch "film"?


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