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Old January 31st, 2016, 09:20 PM   #1
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Grease Live, 1/24 shutter speed...

STOP. STOP DOING THIS.

The steadicam operator for this production left their shutter speed on 1/24 (360 degrees) when they have to capture TONS of high motion content going from set to set...

The footage is so blurry it's pretty much unwatchable. NEVER use 1/24 or 360 degree shutter speeds on a Steadicam shot that requires high motion...

This is absolutely disgusting.
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Old February 1st, 2016, 01:31 PM   #2
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Re: Grease Live, 1/24 shutter speed...

Jack - didn’t know what “Grease Live” was and since I’ve got the Grease DVD, I did a quick search and found out that it was a TV program. We don’t watch much TV so missed it.

For those not getting “our” TV programs just do a youtube search for “Grease: Live” and there are a number of performances. One of the tunes “Rock ’n Roll is Here to Stay” really shows the bad effects of their 1/24 shutter speed. It’s almost like watching an early circa 1900 Thomas Edison movie. After watching a few of these one can almost feel a headache coming on.

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Old February 1st, 2016, 04:10 PM   #3
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Re: Grease Live, 1/24 shutter speed...

This aired on broadcast TV on the FOX network in the US. Full 1080psf24 workflow with Sony servers, switchers, F55s, and HDC-4300s... and they used 1/24 shutter speed on select cameras on a live broadcast...

How could you overlook such a simple thing as turning on the "shutter" function to ensure all cameras were 1/48 or 180 degrees?

Here's the video in question from John:
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Old February 2nd, 2016, 05:28 PM   #4
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Re: Grease Live, 1/24 shutter speed...

Wasn't the Steadicam op's fault. Their job was to operate steadicam. Depending on how this was run, either the 1st AC or Video op had the shutter set wrong.
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Old February 3rd, 2016, 10:40 AM   #5
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Re: Grease Live, 1/24 shutter speed...

It appeared to me that all of the cameras were set this way, so that must have been a choice (perhaps to gain a stop?). I didn't agree with it either. I could imagine a scenario where there was some debate on whether to shoot 24p or not (because traditionally that doesn't feel "live") and someone suggested the no-shutter look as a halfway compromise.

Overall I was impressed with the production, but this would have been amongst my nitpicks. Others would include: some odd coverage angles that felt not as well thought out as they could be (the occasional handheld shot was distracting), some overly wide angles on the Steadicam in hallway scenes, visible tracing paper on windows that weren't blown out enough (I would chalk that up to broadcast engineers being traditionally nervous about clipping), and more that I've already forgotten about.
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