tripod/head for V1E at DVinfo.net

Piotr Wozniacki · December 21st, 2006, 09:36 AM

After having purchased my V1E, I'm on the budget:). I was planning to buy the Manfrotto 503/525 solution, but am being tempted by the much cheaper Sony VCT-870RM. I have a great bargain available on that from my local dealer. Please tell me - in terms of stability and panning/tilting smoothness, is it much worse than the Manfrottto 503/525? Or is it good enough for a camera like the V1E?

Chris, I confess I've put a similar message in the other subforum,but nobody seems to pay attention - please feel free to cancel that other one, if you like. Sorry for that.

Chris Hurd · December 21st, 2006, 09:53 AM

Moved from Sony V1 to Tripod Sticks & Heads.

Piotr, I'm sorry that you're not yet getting the response that you're looking for, but we're doing our best to encourage everyone to use *all* of the various message boards at DV Info Net. In other words, a V1 owner should read not only the V1 forum but also Support Your Local Camera / Tripod Sticks & Heads, Photon Management, Now Hear This, etc.

Meanwhile, you should browse the Tripod Sticks and Heads forum for other discussions about similar-size camcorders such as the Sony HVR-Z1, the Canon XH A1, etc. Look for reports of tripod combinations that work well with those camcorders. Since all of these camcorders are generally the same size and weight, a tripod that is appropriate for one will also be appropriate for the other. Hope this helps,

Brian Standing · December 21st, 2006, 11:42 AM

Miller SOLO carbon fiber with DS10 head.

It's perfect for my PD-150, so should be equally so for the V1 (which is just a tad lighter). No better tripod out there.

'nuff said.

Piotr Wozniacki · December 21st, 2006, 03:33 PM

Anybody actually uses the Sony VCT-870RM?!!

Brian Standing · December 21st, 2006, 04:16 PM

I don't know the Sony model, but previous Sony tripods I've looked at have been pretty flimsy. I've had several Bogens, and have eventually cursed them all, as they stick, fall apart, shake or otherwise fail me in unpredictable ways.

Like you, I resisted for a long time, and finally broke down and got the best tripod I could afford -- the Miller Solo I mentioned before. Holy cats! What a difference is has made in my shooting! First off, because it's light, compact and easy to carry strapped to my back, I'm more likely to take it with me. A tripod does you no good if you leave it at home. Secondly, you have no idea how much easier it is to do pans and tilts with a quality fluid head -- the difference is like night and day. Thirdly, my old tripods used to visibly shake when a truck went by, or the wind came up suddenly -- these puppies are rock solid, all the time. Finally, I know this tripod will never, ever become obsolete... can't say that about your brand new V1e!

I'd argue your tripod is probably the most important investment you can make in your equipment -- don't skimp! I know, I know, it's hard to fork out over a grand for three sticks with no electronics in it, but this is one area where you
really, really get what you pay for.

If you really can't afford a new, professional tripod, look on E-Bay (or the DVInfo Classifieds) for a vintage Miller fluid head and a set of wooden legs. With some digging, you should be able to find one of these in decent condition for under $250. These things are built like tanks and fairly heavy, but still provide decent pans. I used one of these museum pieces for a while until I got a gig that paid me enough to get a new one. I really enjoyed the strange looks I got when people saw my PD-150 perched on top of these classic 16mm-style pegs.

December 21st, 2006, 09:36 AM	#1
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	tripod/head for V1E After having purchased my V1E, I'm on the budget:). I was planning to buy the Manfrotto 503/525 solution, but am being tempted by the much cheaper Sony VCT-870RM. I have a great bargain available on that from my local dealer. Please tell me - in terms of stability and panning/tilting smoothness, is it much worse than the Manfrottto 503/525? Or is it good enough for a camera like the V1E? Chris, I confess I've put a similar message in the other subforum,but nobody seems to pay attention - please feel free to cancel that other one, if you like. Sorry for that.

December 21st, 2006, 09:53 AM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Moved from Sony V1 to Tripod Sticks & Heads. Piotr, I'm sorry that you're not yet getting the response that you're looking for, but we're doing our best to encourage everyone to use all of the various message boards at DV Info Net. In other words, a V1 owner should read not only the V1 forum but also Support Your Local Camera / Tripod Sticks & Heads, Photon Management, Now Hear This, etc. Meanwhile, you should browse the Tripod Sticks and Heads forum for other discussions about similar-size camcorders such as the Sony HVR-Z1, the Canon XH A1, etc. Look for reports of tripod combinations that work well with those camcorders. Since all of these camcorders are generally the same size and weight, a tripod that is appropriate for one will also be appropriate for the other. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

December 21st, 2006, 11:42 AM	#3
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	Miller SOLO carbon fiber with DS10 head. It's perfect for my PD-150, so should be equally so for the V1 (which is just a tad lighter). No better tripod out there. 'nuff said.

December 21st, 2006, 03:33 PM	#4
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Anybody actually uses the Sony VCT-870RM?!!

December 21st, 2006, 04:16 PM	#5
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	I don't know the Sony model, but previous Sony tripods I've looked at have been pretty flimsy. I've had several Bogens, and have eventually cursed them all, as they stick, fall apart, shake or otherwise fail me in unpredictable ways. Like you, I resisted for a long time, and finally broke down and got the best tripod I could afford -- the Miller Solo I mentioned before. Holy cats! What a difference is has made in my shooting! First off, because it's light, compact and easy to carry strapped to my back, I'm more likely to take it with me. A tripod does you no good if you leave it at home. Secondly, you have no idea how much easier it is to do pans and tilts with a quality fluid head -- the difference is like night and day. Thirdly, my old tripods used to visibly shake when a truck went by, or the wind came up suddenly -- these puppies are rock solid, all the time. Finally, I know this tripod will never, ever become obsolete... can't say that about your brand new V1e! I'd argue your tripod is probably the most important investment you can make in your equipment -- don't skimp! I know, I know, it's hard to fork out over a grand for three sticks with no electronics in it, but this is one area where you really, really get what you pay for. If you really can't afford a new, professional tripod, look on E-Bay (or the DVInfo Classifieds) for a vintage Miller fluid head and a set of wooden legs. With some digging, you should be able to find one of these in decent condition for under $250. These things are built like tanks and fairly heavy, but still provide decent pans. I used one of these museum pieces for a while until I got a gig that paid me enough to get a new one. I really enjoyed the strange looks I got when people saw my PD-150 perched on top of these classic 16mm-style pegs.