Bird Doc in Progress at DVinfo.net

Andrew Wheeler · June 25th, 2006, 09:30 PM

Hey! I posted this in the XL2 section first and didnt realize this section existed so Im posting it again. I'm working on a feature length documentary about birdwatching and its culture through the eyes of a most unconventional birder. I know there are a bunch of wildlife videographers here who might be interested. This is a small 4 min segment of the film shot in Hong Kong. Does the guy and the content in the film hold your attention. What about for 8o minutes. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks and enjoy!

http://hosted.filefront.com/awheel41215

ps. go halfway down the page and click on birddoc.mov on the rightside of the page

The file entitled vietnamwebb was shot in Vietnam. If you are a PC user you may need to add .mov to the file titles.
Thanks,
andy

Bill Porter · June 26th, 2006, 11:28 PM

I liked it! To answer your question, I think to hold people's attention you'll want to make the cuts faster paced. Most people are impatient until their attention is grabbed, so the three clips in the very beginning (city, crowd, traffic) each seemed extremely long to me.

The informative stuff is cool and that's what grabs people. Push that as much as you can, IMHO.

Keep up the great work and keep us posted on it too!

Dale Guthormsen · June 29th, 2006, 11:02 PM

Andrew,

You arre right, kind of a different view of bird watching than one might think of when you think of bird watching. It is always of interest to us to see diffferent bioms and wildlife, but as mentioned, the general public needs it a bit snappier and of course good narration.

Was wondering about your exposures, they all seem bleached and was wondering if the polution and such cause that.

keep up the work, it takes a lot of work to get things the way you like. and to be honest it seems like it is never the way you like. so keep at it!!

Andrew Wheeler · July 1st, 2006, 02:21 PM

Hey everyone thanks for the responses. You guys are right about the slow pacing for sure. Ill keep it in mind as this progresses. That is my style, but I will only be doing a rough cut of this and then ill be sending it to an real editor who can cut it down. As far as the exposures, im not sure why they look like that. On my computer they looked a little bleached or maybe overexposed but on a good tv or monitor they appear fine to me. All of this was shot where it is hot and humid all the time. It was not usually a bright sun but more of a greyish haze This may have something to do with it. Pollution possibly and hot humidity maybe? Again thanks for the help and ill keep the clips coming!
andy

June 25th, 2006, 09:30 PM	#1
Andrew Wheeler New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 13	Bird Doc in Progress Hey! I posted this in the XL2 section first and didnt realize this section existed so Im posting it again. I'm working on a feature length documentary about birdwatching and its culture through the eyes of a most unconventional birder. I know there are a bunch of wildlife videographers here who might be interested. This is a small 4 min segment of the film shot in Hong Kong. Does the guy and the content in the film hold your attention. What about for 8o minutes. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks and enjoy! http://hosted.filefront.com/awheel41215 ps. go halfway down the page and click on birddoc.mov on the rightside of the page The file entitled vietnamwebb was shot in Vietnam. If you are a PC user you may need to add .mov to the file titles. Thanks, andy

June 29th, 2006, 11:02 PM	#3
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Andrew, You arre right, kind of a different view of bird watching than one might think of when you think of bird watching. It is always of interest to us to see diffferent bioms and wildlife, but as mentioned, the general public needs it a bit snappier and of course good narration. Was wondering about your exposures, they all seem bleached and was wondering if the polution and such cause that. keep up the work, it takes a lot of work to get things the way you like. and to be honest it seems like it is never the way you like. so keep at it!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

June 26th, 2006, 11:28 PM	#2
Bill Porter Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ventura, California, USA Posts: 751	I liked it! To answer your question, I think to hold people's attention you'll want to make the cuts faster paced. Most people are impatient until their attention is grabbed, so the three clips in the very beginning (city, crowd, traffic) each seemed extremely long to me. The informative stuff is cool and that's what grabs people. Push that as much as you can, IMHO. Keep up the great work and keep us posted on it too!

July 1st, 2006, 02:21 PM	#4
Andrew Wheeler New Boot Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 13	Hey everyone thanks for the responses. You guys are right about the slow pacing for sure. Ill keep it in mind as this progresses. That is my style, but I will only be doing a rough cut of this and then ill be sending it to an real editor who can cut it down. As far as the exposures, im not sure why they look like that. On my computer they looked a little bleached or maybe overexposed but on a good tv or monitor they appear fine to me. All of this was shot where it is hot and humid all the time. It was not usually a bright sun but more of a greyish haze This may have something to do with it. Pollution possibly and hot humidity maybe? Again thanks for the help and ill keep the clips coming! andy