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so the 820 is $165-175us. The 850, which is an identical model, but with pal instead of ntsc is over $300us. lame. anybody know of an 800x480 battery powered monitor that does ntsc and pal?
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Well, UPS just delivered the Sony, but unfortunately I don't have access to my camera until I get home -- all I have here to play on it is an SD wedding video and a disc of 5MP stills.
I can say I'm severely underwhelmed by the picture, and in fact I was severely underwhelmed even by the Sony intro screen that comes on before you insert a disc. I wish I had a Pixar title lying around to see the best this might be capable of... However, I'll keep hoping that an HD signal through composite will look much better...and I'll keep in mind that if this device makes focusing easier, than I guess that's all that's being asked of it -- I don't think anyone mentioned that they couldn't take their eyes off the display because it was so stunning, but I got the impression from Jerome's intial post that this screen was decidely pretty remarkable. Maybe I just haven't fed it anything decent yet, but I assumed that the built in intro screen would at least take full advantage of its capabilities. |
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Either you guys are being too picky or something is wrong. Anyrate, yes, it will help you with focusing... I'm not defending this item "guns a blazing" but perhaps being a little too picky? |
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I can't say for sure that this helps me focus any more accurately than using my viewfinder or flip-out LCD, but the size of the image does make it more comfortable. But now my biggest issue is the 4:3 composite signal put out by my JVC HD200 -- so I'm not even using all of the Sony's screen real estate. And choosing the "Full" option on the Sony is no good, since that mode really looks pretty poor (not to mention that circles become ovals, etc.). It would be better if this thing weren't widescreen. So going component out to a high quality ~7-8 inch LCD sounds better and better....except for the price. |
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If not, then have a look in your camera's menu and see what you can change about it. Aspect ratio or whatever. If circles become ovals, then it leaves me to think you are shooting 4:3 square. |
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This may or may not have anything to do with the fact that on the JVC, both the viewfinder and flip-out LCD panels are in fact 4:3 panels, with the image area letterboxed within it. But that fact may be unrelated... In the end, if the JVC's composite out is fixed at 4:3, then this Sony solution becomes much less worthwhile, since you can't even use the full screen, as you end up with an image that's both letterboxed and pillarboxed. |
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I bought one, but I haven't used it yet. I hope it will help my current problem which is critical focusing with a shallow DOF 35mm converter. (Sony EX1 + RedRock M2 + Nikon 50 or 85mm f/1.4 @ f2) My current best method is to use the EX1 "peaking" features that highlights the sharpest image features in blue. I'm using a small deodorant stick as it is has flat sides and it is compact. Then, I just take the stick out of the frame. |
Someone on the ProHD forum just confirmed for me the JVC will only output 4:3 SD from the composite output.
So that makes the decision easy for me, and unfortunately this Sony will be taking a return trip to B&H. At least I don't have to forever wring my hands about its image quality... Thanks though for the tip, Jerome -- the idea was definitely worth checking out... |
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Oh well... atleast you gave it a shot. |
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With the 35mm converter, it should help you out alot. Please post your findings.. |
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As far as the JVC's LCD and VF being 4:3, I can only guess they wanted to use existing parts and be cheap? It's readily acknowledged that these are great cameras, but their LCD and VF are extremely subpar in quality. The fact that they're 4:3 actually has the plus that a lot of the info display text remains in the "letterbox bars" and out of the image area. The main reason they suck is that they just don't look so great... |
another brand?
So since sony bends you over if you want pal, i was looking around at other 800x480 dvd players that are more region/format friendly.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882136168 I'm not endorsing newegg or anything, just using it as a reference. Has anybody seen one of these in person? If you are at a store that has one, would you mind giving it a quick glance to see if the screen is substantially worse than the sony? also, it looks like it should be able to fold flat on itself... but i could be mistaken. If you come across this or a different brand of 800x480 dvd, please give it a glance and see if it looks any good/is pal happy. thanks a ton from down under! |
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Just want to clarify... so if I"m shooting 1080 60i with my XH-A1, I can take the composite out of the camera into the composite in of this DVD player - and when I switch the DVD player to 16x9 mode I will be able to clearly view the entire frame, right? THe composite output of the camera outputs anamorphic (when shooting in 1080 60) and the 16x9 mode on the DvD player "squishes" it to the correct aspect? DO I have this correct?? Just want to confim, then I'm off to best buy!!!! - I got one of those gift cards too!!! thanks |
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