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Kent Dammand June 1st, 2004 02:55 PM

CRT VS : Any thoughts?
 
CRT VS :


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Any thoughts?

Ken Tanaka June 1st, 2004 02:56 PM

Thoughts with regard to what?

Kent Dammand June 1st, 2004 02:58 PM

A tradional field monitor VS the one listed.

Mike Rehmus June 1st, 2004 06:23 PM

Yes. Don't. LCDs still cannot be used to evaluate video quality. However, if you only want to judge framing, then it might be OK.

Ken Tanaka June 1st, 2004 06:52 PM

This looks like a nice lcd monitor. Panasonic makes some good display products. But my remarks in your original thread still stand.

If I was going to forgo having a full-fledged production monitor in favor of an lcd I would certainly also want the display to run off of battery power, as my 7" Panasonic does.

I do not see this monitor as a practical choice for real field production. I'm sure it's fine as a computer display and for watching videos but its configuration and weight are impractical to schlep.

Kent Dammand June 1st, 2004 07:04 PM

Hey

I posted wrong on that, sorry. I was talking about the 7" you mentioned. So I assume you still stand by your orignal post even with the 7".

thanks

Jeff Donald June 1st, 2004 07:06 PM

LCD's one big advantage is brightness and to a lesser degree, sharpness. However, as the others have pointed out, color is no comparison at this level. CRT wins every time, unless you want to spend upwards of $2,000 for an LCD monitor.

Ken Tanaka June 1st, 2004 07:14 PM

Here is the 7" Panasonic I use. It's very light, compact and particularly handy because I've had mine modified by Nebtek to run off of Canon BP series batteries. I really like this fellow.

But as good as it is I cannot rely heavily on it for color and contrast fidelity. As I said, if I really need to zero-in on accurate image properties I use my 9" Sony 8045 crt monitor.

Kent Dammand June 1st, 2004 07:18 PM

Hey

Sorry to ask, but do you know the price of the 9" Sony 8045


I didnt find it in a search?

Ken Tanaka June 1st, 2004 08:36 PM

Sony has changed models in the past year or two. Here are three 9" Sonys at B&H. As I said in the other thread, browse around at B&H.

Mike Rehmus June 1st, 2004 10:44 PM

I second the Sony 9" Monitor use. I'd be lost without it and my portable Leader Waveform monitor. But if I had to chose between the two, the Sony would get the nod.

Jeff Donald June 1st, 2004 11:02 PM

I will also recommend the Sony 9 inch field monitor. However, on Mike's remarks, different strokes for different folks. I prefer a monitor for evaluating focus, DOF, framing, scene content and lighting ratio's. But for exposure and color evaluation give me a scope any day.

Michael Le June 2nd, 2004 10:57 PM

Why is it that these CRTs cost so much? Why can't you just go buy a small color TV and then calibrate it to standard?

Ken Tanaka June 2nd, 2004 11:56 PM

To begin with, crt monitors, in general, cost more than lcd's to manufacture. But that does not tell the whole story.

True production monitors are very different products than consumer televisions. Here are a few reasons why.
  • They can generally accept different types of input signals, usually at least composite and s-video
  • Their phosphors (ex: SMPTE-C) are also far more precise than a regular tv. Consumer televisions' phosphors are cheap and tend to be balanced for what customers tend to buy; usually red-heavy.
  • Most of the better units have switchable aspect ratios.
  • Display resolutions are generally higher than a tv, often up to 800 lines on 13 viewable inch displays.
  • Some are board-upgradable, for example to handle HD inputs.
  • Nearly all pro monitors can be accurately calibrated and feature controls to facilitate calibration. You may be able to adjust a consumer tv to some degree of color and contrast fidelity, but it's basically impossible to do better than an approximation of accuracy with nearly any tv.
But, in fact, a good portable production monitor really isn't more expensive than a comparable high-res production monitor. (This does not include computer lcd's which are more like consumer televisions.) In fact, they may average a bit lower prices.

Jeff Donald June 3rd, 2004 07:04 AM

Quote:

Why can't you just go buy a small color TV and then calibrate it to standard?
Most small TV's are either so limited in their controls or quality of construction, that they can't be properly calibrated.


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