Portable monitor with built-in LUTs at DVinfo.net

Steve Kimmel · February 22nd, 2012, 12:53 PM

Are there any portable LCD monitors that have built-in LUTs? I'm looking for a monitor I can use with my Sony F3 when in s-log mode so I can view LUT on the monitor but record without LUT to the SxS card.

Thanks.

Chris Medico · February 22nd, 2012, 12:56 PM

The short answer is yes. Prepare to spend $3.5k. Panasonic makes one.

Steve Kimmel · February 22nd, 2012, 12:57 PM

Yikes! What screen size?

Chris Medico · February 22nd, 2012, 01:04 PM

I believe its 17".

I do not know of anything under 12" that supports a LUT.

Steve Kalle · February 23rd, 2012, 01:09 PM

I recommend against recording S-Log to the SxS cards because the 8bit 420 format can't handle 14 stops of Dynamic Range very well, which can result in posterizing and banding. If I must record S-Log to SxS only, I use a LUT to squeeze the DR down a bit as well as spread the data across the 255 values to prevent banding issues, but it doesn't eliminate it.

For external LUTs, you can use the BM HDLink ($495) and have it connected to an external monitor via SDI, DVI, HDMI or DisplayPort (depending on the model).

Another option is using an Eizo LCD which can store LUTs and various preset & calibrated color spaces (I own the CG243W and love it, but I only use it for post).

Steve Kimmel · February 23rd, 2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kalle

I recommend against recording S-Log to the SxS cards because the 8bit 420 format can't handle 14 stops of Dynamic Range very well, which can result in posterizing and banding. If I must record S-Log to SxS only, I use a LUT to squeeze the DR down a bit as well as spread the data across the 255 values to prevent banding issues, but it doesn't eliminate it.

I agree, thus the reason for looking for a monitor that has built-in LUT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kalle

For external LUTs, you can use the BM HDLink ($495) and have it connected to an external monitor via SDI, DVI, HDMI or DisplayPort (depending on the model).

Another option is using an Eizo LCD which can store LUTs and various preset & calibrated color spaces (I own the CG243W and love it, but I only use it for post).

Thanks. Will look into these. Would any of this work with a portable (on-camera) monitor?

Steve Kalle · February 23rd, 2012, 03:01 PM

Yes, the HDLink works but I believe it requires a power source. I haven't used it before; so, I don't know how to engage its LUTs and switch between the stored LUTs. I assume a computer is needed and connected via USB.

PS I like the Rec709 (800%) LUT in the F3 when recording the the SxS cards. Here is a recent example of very lightly graded footage where I used a simple Curves effect (normal 'S' curve to boost contrast).

February 22nd, 2012, 12:53 PM	#1
Steve Kimmel Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 256	Portable monitor with built-in LUTs Are there any portable LCD monitors that have built-in LUTs? I'm looking for a monitor I can use with my Sony F3 when in s-log mode so I can view LUT on the monitor but record without LUT to the SxS card. Thanks.

February 22nd, 2012, 12:56 PM	#2
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Portable monitor with built-in LUTs The short answer is yes. Prepare to spend $3.5k. Panasonic makes one. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

February 22nd, 2012, 12:57 PM	#3
Steve Kimmel Major Player Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 256	Re: Portable monitor with built-in LUTs Yikes! What screen size?

February 22nd, 2012, 01:04 PM	#4
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Portable monitor with built-in LUTs I believe its 17". I do not know of anything under 12" that supports a LUT. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

February 23rd, 2012, 01:09 PM	#5
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Portable monitor with built-in LUTs I recommend against recording S-Log to the SxS cards because the 8bit 420 format can't handle 14 stops of Dynamic Range very well, which can result in posterizing and banding. If I must record S-Log to SxS only, I use a LUT to squeeze the DR down a bit as well as spread the data across the 255 values to prevent banding issues, but it doesn't eliminate it. For external LUTs, you can use the BM HDLink ($495) and have it connected to an external monitor via SDI, DVI, HDMI or DisplayPort (depending on the model). Another option is using an Eizo LCD which can store LUTs and various preset & calibrated color spaces (I own the CG243W and love it, but I only use it for post).

February 23rd, 2012, 03:01 PM	#7
Steve Kalle Trustee Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,554	Re: Portable monitor with built-in LUTs Yes, the HDLink works but I believe it requires a power source. I haven't used it before; so, I don't know how to engage its LUTs and switch between the stored LUTs. I assume a computer is needed and connected via USB. PS I like the Rec709 (800%) LUT in the F3 when recording the the SxS cards. Here is a recent example of very lightly graded footage where I used a simple Curves effect (normal 'S' curve to boost contrast). vimeo 02-15 Master Bob Interview on Vimeo