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Old July 18th, 2007, 12:50 PM   #1
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I'll take two.

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Broadcastan...ast#lmd2050whd
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Old July 18th, 2007, 01:13 PM   #2
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Two of what? Why?...
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Old July 18th, 2007, 01:24 PM   #3
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Gee Boyd, two of every one. Actually two of those nice large displays would be nice, but at this point I'd have to get a bigger desk. I got that link in my email from my beloved Sony and wanted to pass along the link.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #4
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IMO there are better choices on the market than the Sony Luma panels. Going with a 1920x1080 panel gives you much better resolution and avoids scaling artifacts. (For HD.)

For SD, just get a PVM CRT if you can. Those are great monitors.
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Old July 19th, 2007, 08:32 PM   #5
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IMO there are better choices on the market than the Sony Luma panels. Going with a 1920x1080 panel gives you much better resolution and avoids scaling artifacts. (For HD.)
Dear Glenn,

Could you please elaborate?

What are the better choices? I have been considering the JVC 24", but it does not have waveform monitoring.

The Sony Luma LCD panel is 1920 x 1200. I assume that they actually use 1920 x 1080 and leave the rest for other info, such as audio metering, as do some other high end monitors. Or do they scale the 1080 up to 1200 leaving scaling artifacts? I thought that this was a pixel for pixel display (with 1080i or 1080p input).

I am currently investigating the LMD2450WHD. I am attempting to determine if it has a cooling fan, and if so, is it noisy. The fan on the 17" Panasonic is too noisy for good audio on the set, but it can be turned off.

It is my understanding that Sony was showing this new monitor, along with two high end Sony CRT monitors in a blind "Taste Test". I understand it was very hard to tell which was an LCD and which were the CRTs. (Please note that this is hearsay as I was not there.)
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Old July 19th, 2007, 11:34 PM   #6
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Hmm this is actually a 1920x1200 monitor (from which you can derive 1920x1080... which is what the manufacturers do since LCD panel fabs only make 1920x1200). I just assumed that Sony wasn't making Luma panels with at least 1920x1080 pixels... this was my impression at NAB07 when I was strolling through their booth.

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It is my understanding that Sony was showing this new monitor, along with two high end Sony CRT monitors in a blind "Taste Test". I understand it was very hard to tell which was an LCD and which were the CRTs. (Please note that this is hearsay as I was not there.)
They were showing their BVM-L LCD monitor I believe... it has a ballpark price of about $25k. It was a comparison between that and their 20-something inch CRTs (the Sony 32" CRT is better but they don't make a LCD that size). If you stand close enough, you could pick out that the BVM-L was sharper. (And the reverse applies.) On dark scenes, the CRTs had better black level. On the majority of the scenes, it's about the same.

2- Of previous Lumas I've seen, they had some problems. This is likely not indicative of their 2450WHD model since it may be much improved. The BVM-L is certainly a huge improvement over the Lumas they were showing at NAB06.

Things to look for:
--Ghosting. If stuff (e.g. character) is left on the screen too long, it gets burned in. I don't think this is a problem now. Hilarious though.
--Black level. Do the blacks look black instead of some grey/almost-black color.
--Colors- are they consistent with other broadcast monitors (esp. broadcast grade CRTs, which historically have been the standard).
--Resolution- at least 1920x1080 pixels will do it. *There are subtle differences in how each pixel looks... you may be able to see the RGB stripe pattern easier on some monitors than others. e.g. the Apple Cinema Display kind of bugs me. But for most monitors I don't see noticeable differences between them.

At one time Lumas has problems with all of the above. But that is several years ago.

3- Other manufacturers making <$10k 1920x1080 LCDs would be JVC, Marshall, ecinemasys. I only looked briefly at the ecinemasys FX-series panels. Their display panels weren't calibrated (and the colors were off)... black level is ok... I think it might have a waveform monitor... price $4k or less. I can't tell you too much about it (because they weren't showing much)... and their website doesn't have any info right now.
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Old July 20th, 2007, 05:50 AM   #7
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Dear Glenn,

Thanks for the information.
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Old September 18th, 2007, 01:19 PM   #8
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I can't decide...

Currently looking for a LCD display for my Mac Pro and considering the following two monitors;

Eizo 24" FlexScan HD2441W - Price: $1,999
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/hd2441w/index.asp

JVC 24" Broadcast Studio Monitor w/HDSDI, Model DT-V24L1DU - Price: $3,699
http://www.pro.jvc.com/prof/attribut...l_id=MDL101631

Would the JVC at over $1,600 more be worth it? Looking at a long-term investment, using the Mac Pro primarily as a HD video editing workstation, photoshop, creating graphics, etc.

Looking to spend about $4,000. Any suggestions?

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Old September 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM   #9
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Got off the fence and...

...decided on and purchased two Eizo at Super Warehouse

Eizo 24" FlexScan HD2441W - Price: $1,735 each
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