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Our first Same Day Edit (SDE) -heart attack anyone? · July 3rd, 2009, 02:03 PM

I barely made it (8:22 pm) to the reception showing (8:30 pm) to hand this to my partner so the couple and 250 guests can watch it...TIP: always save your work just in case your cpu crashes :) took me a good 4 hours (with the crashes and all) and 3 cups of coffee and half a pack of Marlboros to deliver the final SDE film. not for the faint of heart but very very exciting..cannot wait to do it again !!

Your thoughts and advice are always welcome...

Cheers,

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Noel Lising · July 3rd, 2009, 02:36 PM

Thanks for sharing. Just an advice though, it's always best to shoot the Bride when the make-up is done. It's not very flattering to see the Bride with make-up not on. I commend you for being brave and doing an SDE, I can't do it yet. The shoe shot are you trying to animate the shoes? It did not work for me.

Overall Im sure your client enjoyed the SDE.

Kren Barnes · July 3rd, 2009, 03:21 PM

Hi Noel,

Thanks for the input...i asked the bride before hand and she said she was OK with it...
The animated shoes could've have been better..i was scared to correct it fearing that my PPro might crash again....hehehehe!!

It helps to do an SDE if you have a team (there are 3 of us) and i only shoot and edit for the SDE. I used a SONY HDD SR1 AVCHD .

i also noticed that it is a good way to advertise our service since we have 5 bookings because of last weeks SDE...can't wait to do more !!

Cheers..

Travis Cossel · July 3rd, 2009, 03:39 PM

Congrats for pulling off the SDE! Hopefully you got a great reaction from the guests.

A few things I noticed ...

Filming a bride before makeup .. I know Noel advised not to do it but we do it all the time and it works great. You have to keep a few things in mind, though. First, does the girl have good complexion or not? In this case, the girls does not have good complexion so closeup shots without makeup are not going to be good for her. Second, make sure the lighting is going to compliment her skin if you want to use a color shot. The closeup of her has some nasty bluish outdoor light across part of her face, and it doesn't look good. In black and white that shot would look better.

I also have to agree that the shoe-animation segment didn't work at all for me. For a shot like that you definitely need to have the camera locked down on a tripod. The shot of the shoes bouncing around the screen also didn't work for me. But hey, you have to try something different sometimes, right?

I'm also seeing a lot of auto-exposure use. Turn it off and learn the manual exposure settings of your camera. When you're in the middle of a shot and the camera is automatically adjusting exposure it takes the focus off of the subject of your shot.

Anyways, it was a decent edit, especially for an SDE. I hope my comments help you. Thanks for sharing!

Jawad Mir · July 3rd, 2009, 04:27 PM

congrats dude, they are tough to do

I have done quite a few now but pressure of my first one wasn't even there because client never asked for it. I decided I let myself go smooth on the first one so if it works it does if not, at least client didn't ask for it

But even now, there is a pressure for sure

Great Work

Kren Barnes · July 3rd, 2009, 11:13 PM

Thanks Travis and Jawad for your inputs....i'll keep in mind for our wedding shoot tommorrow...

Cheers!

Nicholas de Kock · July 4th, 2009, 07:01 AM

Too stressful for me! Awesome work pulling it off!

Stelios Christofides · July 4th, 2009, 08:44 AM

It's nice to be able to do a SDE if you have the manpower and time but for me, one man business, its impossible. Anyway I liked it, the shots you used are great although I noticed that in most of the shots the camera could have been steadier. I also didn't like the shoe animation.

Stelios

Kren Barnes · July 4th, 2009, 10:13 PM

hahahaha!! OK ...no more shoe animation
Thanks for the advice...

July 3rd, 2009, 02:36 PM	#2
Noel Lising Major Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 789	Thanks for sharing. Just an advice though, it's always best to shoot the Bride when the make-up is done. It's not very flattering to see the Bride with make-up not on. I commend you for being brave and doing an SDE, I can't do it yet. The shoe shot are you trying to animate the shoes? It did not work for me. Overall Im sure your client enjoyed the SDE. __________________ Noel Lising

July 3rd, 2009, 03:39 PM	#4
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Congrats for pulling off the SDE! Hopefully you got a great reaction from the guests. A few things I noticed ... Filming a bride before makeup .. I know Noel advised not to do it but we do it all the time and it works great. You have to keep a few things in mind, though. First, does the girl have good complexion or not? In this case, the girls does not have good complexion so closeup shots without makeup are not going to be good for her. Second, make sure the lighting is going to compliment her skin if you want to use a color shot. The closeup of her has some nasty bluish outdoor light across part of her face, and it doesn't look good. In black and white that shot would look better. I also have to agree that the shoe-animation segment didn't work at all for me. For a shot like that you definitely need to have the camera locked down on a tripod. The shot of the shoes bouncing around the screen also didn't work for me. But hey, you have to try something different sometimes, right? I'm also seeing a lot of auto-exposure use. Turn it off and learn the manual exposure settings of your camera. When you're in the middle of a shot and the camera is automatically adjusting exposure it takes the focus off of the subject of your shot. Anyways, it was a decent edit, especially for an SDE. I hope my comments help you. Thanks for sharing! __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

July 3rd, 2009, 04:27 PM	#5
Jawad Mir Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 371	congrats dude, they are tough to do I have done quite a few now but pressure of my first one wasn't even there because client never asked for it. I decided I let myself go smooth on the first one so if it works it does if not, at least client didn't ask for it But even now, there is a pressure for sure Great Work __________________ Jawad Mir / Cinematographer . Filmmaker Film Style Weddings http://www.filmstyleweddings.com Jawad Mir http://www.jawadmir.com

July 4th, 2009, 08:44 AM	#8
Stelios Christofides Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nicosia, CYPRUS Posts: 1,080	It's nice to be able to do a SDE if you have the manpower and time but for me, one man business, its impossible. Anyway I liked it, the shots you used are great although I noticed that in most of the shots the camera could have been steadier. I also didn't like the shoe animation. Stelios __________________ My Blog: http://steliosc.blogspot.com "I hope for nothing, I fear nothing, I am free" Nikos Kazantzakis

July 3rd, 2009, 03:21 PM	#3
Kren Barnes Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Posts: 415	Hi Noel, Thanks for the input...i asked the bride before hand and she said she was OK with it... The animated shoes could've have been better..i was scared to correct it fearing that my PPro might crash again....hehehehe!! It helps to do an SDE if you have a team (there are 3 of us) and i only shoot and edit for the SDE. I used a SONY HDD SR1 AVCHD . i also noticed that it is a good way to advertise our service since we have 5 bookings because of last weeks SDE...can't wait to do more !! Cheers..

July 3rd, 2009, 11:13 PM	#6
Kren Barnes Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Posts: 415	Thanks Travis and Jawad for your inputs....i'll keep in mind for our wedding shoot tommorrow... Cheers!

July 4th, 2009, 07:01 AM	#7
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	Too stressful for me! Awesome work pulling it off!

July 4th, 2009, 10:13 PM	#9
Kren Barnes Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba Canada Posts: 415	hahahaha!! OK ...no more shoe animation Thanks for the advice...