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all 7d semi SDE · October 19th, 2009, 02:14 AM

Hi guys,

I'd like to share this semi SDE that we did last saturday.

Natalia & Indra semi Same-Day Edit Trailer

All the prep stuff was done on friday so we had time to gather the footage and convert them the night before we shoot the church and the location photos.

It certainly feels great to shoot 25p.... feels like home............

:P

Santo

Stephen J. Williams · October 19th, 2009, 07:41 AM

Santo,

I did it... Caught you or a member of your crew at 3:34 :-)

Awesome video... The opening shot just told me it was going to be another great cinematic approach to a wedding highlight. Man I wish I had a glide track or indie slider. IMO I think those shots added a higher degree of professionalism then the flying shots.
But don't take me the wrong way because your flying shots were awesome too...

I loved how they met each other for the first time. I was kind of wondering what was going on for a second with the groom being escorted backwards by friends and family. For a second I had the impression that there was a fight :-) (it was a very short second)

When they met back to back I smiled... Do you or the photog set that up. Or is that a custom in your area. Totally dug it! Much better then the classic bride walkup behind the groom and tap on the shoulder (uhggg yuck)!

Steve

Susanto Widjaja · October 19th, 2009, 09:05 AM

Thanks for the comment Stephen!

Yes.. that was me... with my merlin...

I couldn't help but to use that shot cause I really like the composition there... o well... a bit of exposure wouldn't hurt would it? LoL!

The back to back thingy was a culture thing. we didn't set it up or anything (well we did give instructions and stuff) but it was meant to be like that.

I agree that slider shots are great but I think they don't beat the flying shots though.

It just depends in what situation would you pick which if you know what I mean.

If I had to choose either one, I'd still choose my steadicam because there is more flexibility there but many people would think otherwise.

Santo

Mitchell Yazdani · October 20th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Great job Santo,

Can you please tell me what did you actually use for this, was it steadicam, what is merlin and slider shot?

Cheers

Mitchell

Bill Vincent · October 21st, 2009, 06:02 AM

Excellent work as usual, Santo. Your shots are all so clear and crisp - what are you using to assist you in focusing the 7D? I have been shooting with the 5D and now 7D, and am trying to get a grip on focusing - I seem to have some issues every time I shoot. Are you using a handheld monitor, or a Z-Finder, or something else?

Susanto Widjaja · October 21st, 2009, 09:45 AM

Thanks guys

Mitchell:
I use steadicam merlin with the 7d and it doesn't work well at the moment. it doesn't balance nicely YET.. still trying to modify the settings and such and such.

Bill:
I don't use any monitor. just focus by eye basically. the 7d has more depth of field than the 5d due to the smaller sensor. It actually works in our favor because you'll keep more in focus while still maintaining gorgeous pictures. I would recommend 5d people to go f2.8 THE MOST.. faster than that and it is super hard to keep focus.. for me at least.. just go really shallow depth of field on beauty shots that you can take time on.

my advice is always, take that extra 2-3 seconds to check your focus each and everytime. it'll worth your while. out of focus shots in 5d is worse than focused jvc everio... :P

Hope that helps guys..

5d with 25p??? YEAAAHHH BABYYY!!!!

Santo

Bill Vincent · October 21st, 2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susanto Widjaja

out of focus shots in 5d is worse than focused jvc everio... :P

Ha ha... yep! Very interesting tho that you don't use a monitor at all. In dark receptions is where I'm having the most focus trouble, since I have to open everything up so much on the camera. Drives me nuts right now, I'm trying to figure out how to handle it. Z-Finder still seems like a possibility, Bloom swears by it.

Mitchell Yazdani · October 21st, 2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Susanto Widjaja

I would recommend 5d people to go f2.8

What do you think about 24-105 F4 for 5D, is that a good lens or you receommend any thing better?

Cheers
Mitchell

Susanto Widjaja · October 22nd, 2009, 12:24 AM

Bill: z-finder looks great! haven't tried one so I can't really tell. but it certainly looks promising. I use the hoodman hoodloupe but only during bring daylight. it is not the greatest tool but it does the job for the money.

Mitchell: 24-105 will give you a nice range with the consequence of the fstop.

if there is 24-105 f2.8 it will be a killer lens.. but that would remain a dream for everyone...

I'd say you can't go wrong buying it. I took a few weeks to decide which lens to get and I went for 24-70 f2.8 and am very happy with it. but at times when using it I would hate it when the zoom is just not long enough. so its a give and take. I just happen to have chosen the faster fstop..

Santo

Mitchell Yazdani · October 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM

Thanks mate, do you use 5D as well or just the 7D, do you think with the new firmware which is going to be released next year still 7D is a better camera for video?
What is the story with the Canon lenses we can not do a manual aperture for video, so some one was recommending Nikon lens, is that correct?
Cheers
Mitchell

Susanto Widjaja · October 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM

Hi mitchell,

Now that the 5d will have 25p. There is no huge difference between the two except for full frame and sensor size. I personally think the smaller sensor size in the 7d actually works in our benefit because the depth of field isn't that shallow anymore on 1.8. 5d's depth of field is rather ridiculous in my opinion. However, the full frame on the 5D is the thing that make the choice hard.

so just think about how you would use the camera. If you think full frame is that important to you then go 5D. if not, then go 7D for 1 grand cheaper or have both! like me!

I hope that makes sense?

Santo

Mitchell Yazdani · October 25th, 2009, 05:28 PM

Yes, thank you.

October 19th, 2009, 09:05 AM	#3
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Thanks for the comment Stephen! Yes.. that was me... with my merlin... I couldn't help but to use that shot cause I really like the composition there... o well... a bit of exposure wouldn't hurt would it? LoL! The back to back thingy was a culture thing. we didn't set it up or anything (well we did give instructions and stuff) but it was meant to be like that. I agree that slider shots are great but I think they don't beat the flying shots though. It just depends in what situation would you pick which if you know what I mean. If I had to choose either one, I'd still choose my steadicam because there is more flexibility there but many people would think otherwise. Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

October 21st, 2009, 09:45 AM	#6
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Thanks guys Mitchell: I use steadicam merlin with the 7d and it doesn't work well at the moment. it doesn't balance nicely YET.. still trying to modify the settings and such and such. Bill: I don't use any monitor. just focus by eye basically. the 7d has more depth of field than the 5d due to the smaller sensor. It actually works in our favor because you'll keep more in focus while still maintaining gorgeous pictures. I would recommend 5d people to go f2.8 THE MOST.. faster than that and it is super hard to keep focus.. for me at least.. just go really shallow depth of field on beauty shots that you can take time on. my advice is always, take that extra 2-3 seconds to check your focus each and everytime. it'll worth your while. out of focus shots in 5d is worse than focused jvc everio... :P Hope that helps guys.. 5d with 25p??? YEAAAHHH BABYYY!!!! Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

October 22nd, 2009, 12:24 AM	#9
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Bill: z-finder looks great! haven't tried one so I can't really tell. but it certainly looks promising. I use the hoodman hoodloupe but only during bring daylight. it is not the greatest tool but it does the job for the money. Mitchell: 24-105 will give you a nice range with the consequence of the fstop. if there is 24-105 f2.8 it will be a killer lens.. but that would remain a dream for everyone... I'd say you can't go wrong buying it. I took a few weeks to decide which lens to get and I went for 24-70 f2.8 and am very happy with it. but at times when using it I would hate it when the zoom is just not long enough. so its a give and take. I just happen to have chosen the faster fstop.. Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

October 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM	#11
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Hi mitchell, Now that the 5d will have 25p. There is no huge difference between the two except for full frame and sensor size. I personally think the smaller sensor size in the 7d actually works in our benefit because the depth of field isn't that shallow anymore on 1.8. 5d's depth of field is rather ridiculous in my opinion. However, the full frame on the 5D is the thing that make the choice hard. so just think about how you would use the camera. If you think full frame is that important to you then go 5D. if not, then go 7D for 1 grand cheaper or have both! like me! I hope that makes sense? Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

October 19th, 2009, 07:41 AM	#2
Stephen J. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 768	Santo, I did it... Caught you or a member of your crew at 3:34 :-) Awesome video... The opening shot just told me it was going to be another great cinematic approach to a wedding highlight. Man I wish I had a glide track or indie slider. IMO I think those shots added a higher degree of professionalism then the flying shots. But don't take me the wrong way because your flying shots were awesome too... I loved how they met each other for the first time. I was kind of wondering what was going on for a second with the groom being escorted backwards by friends and family. For a second I had the impression that there was a fight :-) (it was a very short second) When they met back to back I smiled... Do you or the photog set that up. Or is that a custom in your area. Totally dug it! Much better then the classic bride walkup behind the groom and tap on the shoulder (uhggg yuck)! Steve

October 20th, 2009, 10:21 PM	#4
Mitchell Yazdani Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 79	Great job Santo, Can you please tell me what did you actually use for this, was it steadicam, what is merlin and slider shot? Cheers Mitchell

October 21st, 2009, 06:02 AM	#5
Bill Vincent Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	Excellent work as usual, Santo. Your shots are all so clear and crisp - what are you using to assist you in focusing the 7D? I have been shooting with the 5D and now 7D, and am trying to get a grip on focusing - I seem to have some issues every time I shoot. Are you using a handheld monitor, or a Z-Finder, or something else?

October 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM	#10
Mitchell Yazdani Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 79	Thanks mate, do you use 5D as well or just the 7D, do you think with the new firmware which is going to be released next year still 7D is a better camera for video? What is the story with the Canon lenses we can not do a manual aperture for video, so some one was recommending Nikon lens, is that correct? Cheers Mitchell

October 25th, 2009, 05:28 PM	#12
Mitchell Yazdani Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 79	Yes, thank you.