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Bill Edmunds April 9th, 2008 08:37 AM

How do I do a live wedding webcast?
 
What do I need to offer live wedding ceremony webcasts? Obviously I've got the camera & laptop equipment w/ internet, but I'm a bit foggy on where I go from there. Where would I host it?

John Miller April 9th, 2008 10:30 AM

What OS are you using and how many people do you want to be able to view the webcast at the same time?

On Windows, you can use the free Windows Media Encoder (WME) to take a live feed from a camera (typically DV) and stream it live such that anyone with Windows Media Player can watch. It can stream to about 10 clients at the same time. To allow more, you need to get additional (not free) software to act as a streaming server that works with WME.

Bill Edmunds April 9th, 2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by John Miller (Post 857039)
What OS are you using and how many people do you want to be able to view the webcast at the same time?

On Windows, you can use the free Windows Media Encoder (WME) to take a live feed from a camera (typically DV) and stream it live such that anyone with Windows Media Player can watch. It can stream to about 10 clients at the same time. To allow more, you need to get additional (not free) software to act as a streaming server that works with WME.

I'm on a Mac. I wonder if iSight could do this? I'm probably looking at maybe 50 people max.

Josh Chesarek April 9th, 2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edmunds (Post 857047)
I'm on a Mac. I wonder if iSight could do this? I'm probably looking at maybe 50 people max.

You can get the Quick Time Broadcaster and for 50 people you will probably need to just send a single stream out to a host who can then relay it to your clients. Google Quick Time streaming and you will get some companies. I have never gone with Quick time so I cannot refer any hosts but for $50 you do not need to spend the money for a Big CDN unless your client wants to shell out a lot of cash. Most CDNs wont setup shop for less than $500~$1000 and a CDN is wayyyyy overkill for 50. You can use your Isight to stream. I think it can also take any standard video camera over firewire but I have not personally done this.

Christopher Lefchik April 9th, 2008 04:25 PM

You could use a free live Web casting service. Here are three possibilities.

Yahoo! Live
Ustream.tv
Justin.tv

Philip Ly September 24th, 2008 06:16 PM

Use a service provider that specialises in live wedding webcast
 
Our company, I Do Stream.com , has a comprehensive solution for videographers to offer live wedding webcasting to brides.

For a successful live streaming event, you need to think about all the components that
goes into a successful live streaming event. Most people think only about having the right equipment on site but you need to think about the infrastructure as well. For example, viewers in India and Japan watching a live stream from the US should experience as though there are in the US watching it. And let’s not forget about the most important piece, the viewers. What happens if someone has trouble viewing the broadcast? You may potentially have 50 to 100 viewers calling you because they have a problem viewing? Do you really want viewers to contact you while you're onsite and under the gun? For this to work successfully you need to have all the pieces of the puzzle.

We've developed a comprehensive solution for the videographer to webcast:
- Easy to use broadcast software
- Online viewer support and broadcast monitoring
- Interactive and seamless viewing experience (chat and guestbook)
- Integration into your own website
- Content Delivery Network (CDN)

We have low per event pricing or monthly plans. For more information visit our partner program page. I Do Stream Partner program.

Many free live webcasting sites deliberately lower the quality of the video stream in order to accommodate for the thousands of live webcasts that are occurring simultaneously on their site. The reliability also suffers because of this. Do you really want viewers to experience constant buffering while watching your important event?

We've had many videographers who have used the free sites switch to us because they could not reliably provide a live webcast using a free webcasting site.

Call us at 860-681-5414 for more information.

Philip Ly

Jason Robinson September 25th, 2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Philip Ly (Post 942744)
Philip Ly

No offense Philip, but a company specializing in live streaming video should not have on their front page an embedded video from YouTube..... even if they produced the video and put it upon you YouTube.

Host the video yourself and give videographers a chance to see how your hosting service works. I embed the YouTube version of my videos on my web site because my business is creating videos. Not supporting the bandwidth & disk space necessary to host lots of video content (aka what a CDN should do).

But your service does look like a very interesting offering.

Jason Robinson September 28th, 2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Edmunds (Post 856984)
What do I need to offer live wedding ceremony webcasts? Obviously I've got the camera & laptop equipment w/ internet, but I'm a bit foggy on where I go from there. Where would I host it?

Oddly enough, I just got a request to do a live streaming wedding to relatives in China that cannot get visa's to attend.

Is there anyone here that has ever done this before? I'll be checking into IDoStream and others. Free is not a requirement. I want it done right. I prefer the ability to have multiple data streams for different bitrates so the relatives could choose their connection speed based on their connection (which may be horrible for clients all the way over in China).

Giroud Francois September 28th, 2008 03:50 AM

first you better use a PC, because it is 80% of the market, so you have 80% chances that your viewers will look the stream on a PC.
This means there are chance they do not get quicktime or a quicktime only codec installed.
Windows media player has a free encoder (windows media encoder) that has all the features you need.
This kind of encoding require a very powefull PC.
the simplest way is to use a composite to Firewire converter (canopus ADVC55 or 100).
with 256k bandwith you still can get a decent result but 512 is really better.

on the other side, you simply create a webpage with an embedded player linked directly to the stream or to a stream server.
ideally you could host the stream in china, so it would be more efficient to ditribute.
or even host it on two different providers, so you are sur it will work.

Jason Robinson September 28th, 2008 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Giroud Francois (Post 944085)
first you better use a PC, because it is 80% of the market, so you have 80% chances that your viewers will look the stream on a PC.
This means there are chance they do not get quicktime or a quicktime only codec installed.
Windows media player has a free encoder (windows media encoder) that has all the features you need.
This kind of encoding require a very powefull PC.
the simplest way is to use a composite to Firewire converter (canopus ADVC55 or 100).
with 256k bandwith you still can get a decent result but 512 is really better.

on the other side, you simply create a webpage with an embedded player linked directly to the stream or to a stream server.
ideally you could host the stream in china, so it would be more efficient to ditribute.
or even host it on two different providers, so you are sur it will work.

Interesting. I've looked into some of the free providers listed above. Not too bad, but obviously consumer sites meant for "here is my free webcam" type of streams.

Creating the web page would be easy, but the embedded player linking directly to the source footage may be something a bit beyond my skills. I'll have to look further. THanks for the heads up.

Josh Chesarek September 28th, 2008 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Robinson (Post 944092)
Interesting. I've looked into some of the free providers listed above. Not too bad, but obviously consumer sites meant for "here is my free webcam" type of streams.

Creating the web page would be easy, but the embedded player linking directly to the source footage may be something a bit beyond my skills. I'll have to look further. THanks for the heads up.

It is really simple.

If you are using a real streaming sevice they will provide you with the URL of the stream to connect to. With that information you can just add that to the page you create. It is easiest with Flash as you can use the JW Player and then set the stream variable to the URL they gave you and you are set :)

Giroud Francois September 28th, 2008 08:34 AM

windows media encoder create the page for you , you have nothing to do.

Tim Harjo September 28th, 2008 10:34 AM

How about stickam.com They work great with either pc or mac... wheather your watching or broadcasting. And.. it's free. Stickam is a popular video chat service, it's suprisingly really good quality. Stickam also I believe, provides you with your own sticam.com/youraddress so you would just have to direct watchers to that location.

Good luck!

Jason Robinson September 29th, 2008 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Giroud Francois (Post 944125)
windows media encoder create the page for you , you have nothing to do.

I have been looking for information on how to do what you describe, but so far I have found very little. And the documentation I have found says I need to have a Windows .NET 2003 server to stream the content as the Encoder Server. Nothing seems to indicate that this is possible on a single computer.

Were you able to ever do this personally, or are you saying you read that it was possible?

Helen Habib September 29th, 2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason Robinson (Post 944544)
I have been looking for information on how to do what you describe, but so far I have found very little. And the documentation I have found says I need to have a Windows .NET 2003 server to stream the content as the Encoder Server. Nothing seems to indicate that this is possible on a single computer.

Were you able to ever do this personally, or are you saying you read that it was possible?


Jason, only if you want to broadcast to more than 50 computers, you will need Windows .NET 2003. I've personally used Windows Media Encoder to broadcast an opening ceremony at our office to other branches of the company. I didn't use .Net 2003, I just downloaded the encoder, installed it and broadcast it through Windows Media Player and up to 50 PCs could have shown it. The camcorder was connected to the PC via firewire.

The users on the PCs were given an I.P. address, they just turned on their Media Player and entered the I.P. numbers to view the ceremony.

P.S. Not to contradict what was said earlier about Media Player showing to only 10. 10 is the default setting, but you can change this setting in the registry to 50, but 50 is the maximum PCs you can enter.


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