New Highlight Video at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Wedding / Event Videography Techniques
Shooting non-repeatable events: weddings, recitals, plays, performances...


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old July 9th, 2008, 01:24 AM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
New Highlight Video

Hi Everyone

I have just finished editing our latest wedding video and would like to share the highlight. At this stage shooting on an Xha1 and hv20, no steadicam (really wish I had one already) or DOF adapter.

Would love to hear your feedback!

blog.185films.com.au

http://www.vimeo.com/1151720

Last edited by Peter Szilveszter; July 9th, 2008 at 06:48 PM. Reason: changed link
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2008, 07:04 PM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
Hey there

I see I have had a few people look at the highlight, but no comments, would like to hear some C&C. It's my first HD wedding and shooting 2 cams, so I'd like to know what works and doesn't.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2008, 08:46 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 689
Hi Peter,

Nicely done. I'm sure the couple are ecstatic.

I found the vignette filters and coloring to be distracting, but that's just me. I tend to think that anything more stylized than a warmer-than-normal tone and boosting the contrast is taking it too far. I've never been a fan of skewing the skin tones more than that. Again - just a personal preference. I feel like you run the risk of dating the look of the piece if you start making it look like you tried too hard in post. Ditto on the jump cuts that don't follow some sort of continuity. Also, the timing didn't feel right when combined with the pace of the music. Would have liked more close ups too.

Ackkk. Just re-read what I wrote. It really was quite good, just not my style.





Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Szilveszter View Post
Hi Everyone

I have just finished editing our latest wedding video and would like to share the highlight. At this stage shooting on an Xha1 and hv20, no steadicam (really wish I had one already) or DOF adapter.

Would love to hear your feedback!

blog.185films.com.au

http://www.vimeo.com/1151720
Joel Peregrine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2008, 09:00 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
hehe don't worry its all good feedback for me. The style for the highlight I tend to make it a bit more different to the full edit so I guess just trying to find my style at the moment.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 01:46 AM   #5
Trustee
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 1,997
Liked the ring shot. Very nice solid black BG makes the white ring case jump out.

The couple's name was displayed a for very short time, give the leisurely pace of the music. In my opinion, the music needs to really match the pace of the visuals. My latest trailer has shots that match the music, but the music is kind of militant for a wedding.

The veil shot hanging on the backlit window was very neat, but ended abruptly, so either there was a bump in the camera motion (many times that is why my shots end) or that was intentional.

I loved the shot 2:54 in where the bridal party is sitting and not moving and you blurr the peopel around them. How did you do that? They obviously had to hold still, but did you use a very long shutter? 1/15th or something?
Jason Robinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 01:53 AM   #6
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Hamilton, ON Canada
Posts: 369
you use a 35mm adaptor for much of that?

looks good in my books. I liked the green tint in some of the clips.
David Schuurman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 02:12 AM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Robinson View Post
The couple's name was displayed a for very short time, give the leisurely pace of the music. In my opinion, the music needs to really match the pace of the visuals. My latest trailer has shots that match the music, but the music is kind of militant for a wedding.
Yeah with the name I wanted to sort of do a cheeky torch light pass but maybe its a little too fast. The timing in this edit is little strange but my instinct said stick with it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Robinson View Post
The veil shot hanging on the backlit window was very neat, but ended abruptly, so either there was a bump in the camera motion (many times that is why my shots end) or that was intentional.
It was intentional but in hindsight would have worked better if it dissolved into the next shot. Or if I had a Steadicam :P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Robinson View Post
I loved the shot 2:54 in where the bridal party is sitting and not moving and you blurr the peopel around them. How did you do that? They obviously had to hold still, but did you use a very long shutter? 1/15th or something?
I did this trick on a previous wedding at the reception where everyone else was dancing except the couple (which works better I recon). So I figured this could work again so I shot it like a time lapse (let it run for a minute) and then Its done in post, sped ramp up and using a time trails and set it to really blur the motion. As far as the shutter you can slow it down but then run the risk of maybe the shot not working. Post is more effort but with clean footage you have a lot more flexibility.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 02:14 AM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Schuurman View Post
you use a 35mm adaptor for much of that?

looks good in my books. I liked the green tint in some of the clips.
Thanks, used nothing but stock cameras and tripods.

Can't wait for the next lot of weddings, I will shoot with Merlin and a 35mm adaptor :)
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 02:58 AM   #9
Trustee
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 1,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Szilveszter View Post
Thanks, used nothing but stock cameras and tripods.

Can't wait for the next lot of weddings, I will shoot with Merlin and a 35mm adaptor :)
So OT, but what made you decide on the Merlin? I have been running around my yard with my MultiRig in "flying mode" and I am just NOT happy with the quality of footage I get from it for flying shots.

And I've got some very specific shots in mind, but I don't seem to be able to do them with the MultiRigPro. I've been thinking about actually breaking down and buying either a very short jib so I can "fly" for short distances (and get altitude shots) or a steadicam type device.

Which led me to the Steadicam Merlin vs Glidecam 2000/4000 vs everything else. What made you decide on the Merlin?
Jason Robinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 03:53 AM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
I decided because its very cost effective device that will get you the great "flying" shots very close to its big brothers which are around 8 times more expensive. just check out Matthew Ebenezer's SDE he posted about a week ago, excellent testament what you can do with the hand held version plus many other clips I've seen people do with it. I haven't seen any other steady device at that price that could compare. Just need to build a bit of arm muscle :)

I think the Multrig is great for fighting fatigue and putting other devices onto it, from what footage I've seen it will make the shots less bumpy and smoother but certainly doesn't do what the Steadicam stabilizers will do.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 05:40 AM   #11
Trustee
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 1,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Szilveszter View Post
I decided because its very cost effective device that will get you the great "flying" shots very close to its big brothers which are around 8 times more expensive. just check out Matthew Ebenezer's SDE he posted about a week ago, excellent testament what you can do with the hand held version plus many other clips I've seen people do with it. I haven't seen any other steady device at that price that could compare. Just need to build a bit of arm muscle :)
So you didn't even consider the Glidecam 2000/4000 stabilizers? or were you looking for a more polished device (ie no obvious weight stack at the bottom)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Szilveszter View Post
I think the Multrig is great for fighting fatigue and putting other devices onto it, from what footage I've seen it will make the shots less bumpy and smoother but certainly doesn't do what the Steadicam stabilizers will do.
That is basically how I have used it. Just to support the camera so I can go mobile and get wherever I need to be in order to get shots. It really did work wonders at my massive April wedding where I was hand held following the MC around for HOURS. Perfect use case for that setup. Also helps to attach light & mic.

I am actually a little worried about the Glidecam / Merlin type devices because I cannot see how I would attach a wireless receiver for my mics, an on cam light, and mic (obviously one of those would go in the cam's cold shoe).
Jason Robinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 12th, 2008, 08:07 AM   #12
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Robinson View Post
So you didn't even consider the Glidecam 2000/4000 stabilizers? or were you looking for a more polished device (ie no obvious weight stack at the bottom)
Yeah I'd looked into it but I think for the applications I have in mind the Merlin will be the best

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Robinson View Post
I am actually a little worried about the Glidecam / Merlin type devices because I cannot see how I would attach a wireless receiver for my mics, an on cam light, and mic (obviously one of those would go in the cam's cold shoe).
I think for me its the planned shots where I will use the Merlin and then go back to mono/tripod. So for example when the couple do the waltz, during the reception/ceremony I have digital recorders to get the sound. The light not sure if it will be too heavy but I have ideas how to tackle that if it needs be.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:00 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network