Bride Called Regarding Photographer Missing Important Shot at DVinfo.net

Jason Robinson · July 9th, 2008, 02:11 PM

I just got a call from one of my June brides (and close friend of my wife) who told me the photographer missed an important shot (just didn't set it up or pose it) and wanted to know if I could pull some frames from my video. This is the third bride I've had call needing some screen grabs from my footage.

Fortunately for her, I was actually sitting facing her and the audience in a little alcove, so I might have some pretty good shots of the B&G.

Unfortunately, the backdrop will be busy, there is probably going to be combing and other NTSC SD based artifacts. I told her the maximum printable size would probably be around 3x5 or so. I have never actually printed off a picture from my camera (GL2).

So two questions....

1) Anyone have experience actually printing off frame grabs? If so, mind sharing the details?

2) Anyone want to guess what shot was missed, just for fun?

Louis Maddalena · July 9th, 2008, 02:37 PM

1) Yes I have printed screen grabs from 1080HD and it came out nicely. Not nearly as good quality as a still camera would have done, but I have done it. It came out pretty nicely for being taken from a video camera.

2) Exchanging of the rings?

Jason Robinson · July 9th, 2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Maddalena

1) Yes I have printed screen grabs from 1080HD and it came out nicely. Not nearly as good quality as a still camera would have done, but I have done it. It came out pretty nicely for being taken from a video camera.

I guess I should clarify that I'm shooting with a Canon GL2 and at this ceremony I had my tape deck / emergency backup cam (Panasonic PV-GS320) in the balcony on wide (so no closeups).

The missed shot was a good guess, but not the one that was missed. I'd love to give a clue, but I'll wait until I get more guesses.

David Schuurman · July 9th, 2008, 03:10 PM

processional?

Dave Blackhurst · July 9th, 2008, 03:22 PM

Geez don't tell me he missed the kiss...

I've printed stills even from SD, although it certainly works better with HD cameras!

You probably will need to work to find the "best" frame - the photog shoots maybe 3-5 frames/sec, you're shooting a few more... giving options! Once you've pulled a frame grab (it's fairly simple in Vegas, but I'm sure other NLE's will do the trick), you probably want to do some photoshop magic - there's usually a deinterlace filter floating around in most photo editors that will take care of the comib effect.

Probably fiddle with various sharpening/blur/vignette/border options.

With SD you "may" be able to go to 5x7, but 4x6 will probably be it...

I'm actually toying with the SR11 because it can shoot stills simultaneous at a pretty decent resolution - for those "lo budget" jobs it may be a passable solution. With the economy and my locale not being high $ to start with, I'm looking at some different approaches to meeting the market...

Jason Robinson · July 9th, 2008, 03:58 PM

Two more very good guesses, but not quite right. If you are familiar with the web site "FailBlog.org" think epic fail.

David Schuurman · July 9th, 2008, 04:07 PM

getting in/out of the limo?

I WANT TO WIN THIS GAME!

Don Bloom · July 9th, 2008, 04:36 PM

my mommy won't let me play the game:-( BUT as for printing freeze frames, I've gotten very good quality at 5X7.I
pull a freeze in Vegas, then bring it into Photoshop. Set the properites to 300dpi resize the image to 4X6 or 5X7, deinterlace it and print it.
Let's face it. It's not as good as a print from a 10megapixel still camera but it is at the least passable and in many cases more than that.

Don

Jason Robinson · July 9th, 2008, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Bloom

BUT as for printing freeze frames, I've gotten very good quality at 5X7.I pull a freeze in Vegas, then bring it into Photoshop. Set the properites to 300dpi resize the image to 4X6 or 5X7, deinterlace it and print it. Let's face it. It's not as good as a print from a 10megapixel still camera but it is at the least passable and in many cases more than that.
Don

so Photoshop has a "preset" filter for deinterlacing? Interesting. Wish I had PS. :-) Any idea if Vegas can do the deinterlacing as well as PS?

Don Bloom · July 9th, 2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Robinson

so Photoshop has a "preset" filter for deinterlacing? Interesting. Wish I had PS. :-) Any idea if Vegas can do the deinterlacing as well as PS?

You can certainly deinterlace with Vegas-is it as good as PS? Don't know but don't see why not.

Don

David Schuurman · July 9th, 2008, 05:27 PM

the whole ceremony?

didn't even go to the wedding?

had the camera facing backwards the whole time?

Monday Isa · July 9th, 2008, 06:19 PM

The unity candle

Jason Magbanua · July 9th, 2008, 06:46 PM

Jason, check out the utility - Topaz Moment.

Bill Grant · July 9th, 2008, 09:15 PM

Jason,
I echo these guys in that HD does pull stills very well. I have printed several DVD cases from HD stills as well as quite a few 4x6s with very little issue. The GL2 on the other hand might be an issue. Rings? It has to be Rings... Not the kiss, not the entrance, has to be rings.
Bill

Terry Esslinger · July 9th, 2008, 09:35 PM

Father giving bride away?

July 9th, 2008, 02:11 PM	#1
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	Bride Called Regarding Photographer Missing Important Shot I just got a call from one of my June brides (and close friend of my wife) who told me the photographer missed an important shot (just didn't set it up or pose it) and wanted to know if I could pull some frames from my video. This is the third bride I've had call needing some screen grabs from my footage. Fortunately for her, I was actually sitting facing her and the audience in a little alcove, so I might have some pretty good shots of the B&G. Unfortunately, the backdrop will be busy, there is probably going to be combing and other NTSC SD based artifacts. I told her the maximum printable size would probably be around 3x5 or so. I have never actually printed off a picture from my camera (GL2). So two questions.... 1) Anyone have experience actually printing off frame grabs? If so, mind sharing the details? 2) Anyone want to guess what shot was missed, just for fun?

July 9th, 2008, 03:58 PM	#6
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	Close! Two more very good guesses, but not quite right. If you are familiar with the web site "FailBlog.org" think epic fail.

July 9th, 2008, 09:35 PM	#15
Terry Esslinger Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sacramento, Elk Grove. Calif Posts: 306	Father giving bride away? __________________ Puttin the wet stuff on the red stuff!

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July 9th, 2008, 02:37 PM	#2
Louis Maddalena Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Area. Posts: 550	1) Yes I have printed screen grabs from 1080HD and it came out nicely. Not nearly as good quality as a still camera would have done, but I have done it. It came out pretty nicely for being taken from a video camera. 2) Exchanging of the rings?

July 9th, 2008, 03:10 PM	#4
David Schuurman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hamilton, ON Canada Posts: 369	processional?

July 9th, 2008, 03:22 PM	#5
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Geez don't tell me he missed the kiss... I've printed stills even from SD, although it certainly works better with HD cameras! You probably will need to work to find the "best" frame - the photog shoots maybe 3-5 frames/sec, you're shooting a few more... giving options! Once you've pulled a frame grab (it's fairly simple in Vegas, but I'm sure other NLE's will do the trick), you probably want to do some photoshop magic - there's usually a deinterlace filter floating around in most photo editors that will take care of the comib effect. Probably fiddle with various sharpening/blur/vignette/border options. With SD you "may" be able to go to 5x7, but 4x6 will probably be it... I'm actually toying with the SR11 because it can shoot stills simultaneous at a pretty decent resolution - for those "lo budget" jobs it may be a passable solution. With the economy and my locale not being high $ to start with, I'm looking at some different approaches to meeting the market...

July 9th, 2008, 04:07 PM	#7
David Schuurman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hamilton, ON Canada Posts: 369	getting in/out of the limo? I WANT TO WIN THIS GAME!

July 9th, 2008, 04:36 PM	#8
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	my mommy won't let me play the game:-( BUT as for printing freeze frames, I've gotten very good quality at 5X7.I pull a freeze in Vegas, then bring it into Photoshop. Set the properites to 300dpi resize the image to 4X6 or 5X7, deinterlace it and print it. Let's face it. It's not as good as a print from a 10megapixel still camera but it is at the least passable and in many cases more than that. Don

July 9th, 2008, 05:27 PM	#11
David Schuurman Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hamilton, ON Canada Posts: 369	the whole ceremony? didn't even go to the wedding? had the camera facing backwards the whole time?

July 9th, 2008, 06:19 PM	#12
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	The unity candle

July 9th, 2008, 06:46 PM	#13
Jason Magbanua Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manila Posts: 317	Jason, check out the utility - Topaz Moment.

July 9th, 2008, 09:15 PM	#14
Bill Grant Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Columbia,SC Posts: 806	Jason, I echo these guys in that HD does pull stills very well. I have printed several DVD cases from HD stills as well as quite a few 4x6s with very little issue. The GL2 on the other hand might be an issue. Rings? It has to be Rings... Not the kiss, not the entrance, has to be rings. Bill