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Travis Cossel December 21st, 2008 01:46 PM

"Dream in Color" Color Grading DVD Tutorial
 
I know a lot of you (myself included) have been trying really hard to figure out how to effectively color grade. I recently bought the "Dream in Color" DVD tutorial and watched it several times, and put it into action recently on the wedding trailer I posted a few weeks ago.

Anyways, I've learned everything on the DVD and I'm selling it now. I listed it in the private classifieds section, but since I know most of us probably don't check there very often, I thought I'd post a note about it here for anyone interested. The DVD retails for $100 and I'm selling it for $75.

Blake Cavett December 21st, 2008 06:59 PM

Travis, what did you think of the DVD? It didn't get rave reviews in EventDV.

Travis Cossel December 21st, 2008 08:17 PM

It's great for anyone just getting started in color correction/grading.

For more advanced users, it's alright. I would have loved more info on color theory and how it applies to using filters, but Joshua shows you exactly how he uses his filters, which is probably more valuable than listening to color theory alone. I'm not a beginner, and the DVD definitely helped me get a better look nailed down.

Patrick Moreau December 23rd, 2008 09:18 AM

Blake- I was wondering the same thing. The reviews in EventDV made it sound as appealing as watching the DVD tutorials that come with FCP.

Travis- I would think color theory would absolutely be the most important thing. How are you to be able to distinguish your own look and style, create something that evolves, and really know what it is your doing and how you go about getting that without thoroughly understanding what your applying to a clip. Even in posting a sample, would you not feel much more proud had it been something you created through a mix of several filters in a way that you envisioned when you started?

I ask as we are working on our training DVDs and we always run into the dilemma of actually educating vs just giving the old copy and paste route. It seems like the latter would sell better, but I think we really only identify with the first.

P.

Travis Cossel December 23rd, 2008 11:04 AM

Patrick, I think that the most effective tutorial would be one that provides walk-through examples as well as color theory and how that applies to filters. The trouble for me is that I searched and searched and couldn't find a tutorial that did both. This was the next best thing.

I now have a starting point for how to adjust the grading of my videos, but it's going to take a lot of trial and error to find the look that "I" like, and that fits my style. That is my one real gripe with this DVD, that it doesn't give me the information on HOW the filters work, so I'm left figuring it out on my own. But like I said, I'm much closer to having a color grading solution than I was before I watched the DVD.

I'd like to add that I've sold the DVD.

Raymond Tsang December 23rd, 2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Moreau (Post 982853)
I ask as we are working on our training DVDs and we always run into the dilemma of actually educating vs just giving the old copy and paste route. It seems like the latter would sell better, but I think we really only identify with the first.

P.

Patrick, I agree that the copy/paste DVD would sell better but I think people who are willing to pay for your DVD (like me!) want to be educated as well. I second Travis that a hybrid guide combining technical skills, color theory and guidance would be most valuable.

I have no problem spending $2,500 on workshops hosted by industry leaders but really hate being nickeled and dimed on dvds/books that are essentially "how-to" tutorials. Unfortunately, these items are the "next best thing" (as Travis said).

I want to create my own look and style but need some direction as to why you guys shoot and edit the way you do. The "how you do it" question is secondary.

Ram Purad December 23rd, 2008 05:43 PM

Although it is nice have a unique look and style associated with your studio (which helps promoting your brand), I think the best practice would be to have the ability to give a unique and suitable look for each and every clip we work on. Just like we select a certain type of music for highlights or any other clips based on the mood and the story we want to tell/portray, the "look" (color grading) for each piece should also be dictated by the mood of the event. In order to do that we should learn the fundamental knowledge of color grading so that we gain the ability to generate any "look" we wish just like any other good video/film colorist.

I, myself also own a Dream in Color DVD. Although Joshua gets into a great amount of detail in how 'he' color grades his videos, it misses to educate the viewer on the fundamentals of color grading.

I'm yet to run a cross a training material that teaches this in an effective way. May be Patrick and rest of the folks at SM will come up with something good.

Blake Cavett December 23rd, 2008 07:05 PM

Crap. I was interested in that DVD! Early bird gets the worm!

Ram Purad December 23rd, 2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Blake Cavett (Post 983142)
Crap. I was interested in that DVD! Early bird gets the worm!

mine could be going on the market if you are interested Blake :-)


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