Why do Photographers...?

Taky Cheung · November 5th, 2009, 01:39 AM

At reception, I usually jack up the center column on tripod. Most of the time even the photographers were in front of me, they won't blocked me. But for those photographers using extended flash bracket, that will be a problem.

Denny Lajeunesse · November 5th, 2009, 07:41 AM

Easy solution. Build a small EMP "bomb" (No it doesn't explode). Take batteries out of all your gear. Let lose EMP. You will no longer have to worry about any consumer electronics or Photographers DSLR's getting in your way. ;0)

(Note: I jest.)

Andrew Smith · November 5th, 2009, 08:46 AM

Actually, on a minor technical note, taking the batteries out will not save your equipment from an Electro Magnetic Pulse. Lead shielding will serve you better. Don't forget to include your mobile phone in there as well. Hope you don't have a pacemaker to rely on.

Andrew

Denny Lajeunesse · November 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM

In another thread involving small children and annoying guests.... Tazers....

Dave Blackhurst · November 5th, 2009, 02:41 PM

And my personal multipurpose invention, the Mk1 blowpod combo - monopod and blowgun/tranq dart administration device! Think the marketing campaign "no more blocked shots" should be a winner...

Michael Ojjeh · November 5th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiuChung Leung

I just showed the clip to two photographers and their first reaction was "why don't the videographer move?".

That's explain a lot ....

Just what I expect from a photographer :):)

Denny Lajeunesse · November 5th, 2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Blackhurst

And my personal multipurpose invention, the Mk1 blowpod combo - monopod and blowgun/tranq dart administration device! Think the marketing campaign "no more blocked shots" should be a winner...

How about a tazer pod? I'm sure I could modify a cattle prod to fit in a mono pod.

Dave Blackhurst · November 6th, 2009, 02:40 AM

Not enough range for those "long shots" <wink>! And you don't want guests tripping over the wires... goal is to make it look like they feinted at the sight of the lovely bride <wink, wink>! Remember, discretion is important to the ninja pro video dude!

Noel Lising · November 6th, 2009, 07:44 AM

Playing devil's advocate here. As videographers we can show the couple how the photog ruined the shot ( as one gentlemen posted here), as a Photographer do they have the option of saying, I was not able to shoot the vows coz I might end up blocking the videographer's shot. Now this does not mean, they can go about blocking every shot we have but put yourself in their shoes. What would you do?

Denny Lajeunesse · November 6th, 2009, 04:13 PM

Simple, I'd chat with the video guy and figure out some shooting lanes.

James Workman · November 6th, 2009, 04:23 PM

If the wedding is being shot in HD, why even bother with a photographer during the ceremony? The videographer is shooting up to 30 still picture per second!
Let the photog "stage" his shots after the ceremony, while everyone elese is getting drunk at the reception!
;)

Jason McDonald · November 7th, 2009, 02:08 AM

I got an answer from one chapel:

Apparently, some couples order a same-day-edit called "End Roll" which is featured at the end of their wedding. The videographer only needs to capture key moments and works for about 2 hours between the end of the service and the end of the banquet ceremony putting it all together. In this case the photographer knows where the videographer will be. The photography department has a higher responsibility in delivering the photos after x amount of months.

When a couple has an entire wedding to do there are always 2 cameras in the chapel meaning that if a photographer or a friend/family member gets in the way of one shot, they have another angle to work with. Rarely are there 2 photographers in this particular chapel. There are always 2 videographers if the entire wedding is going to be captured.

Noa Put · November 7th, 2009, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Snow

The recessional started and he ran down the aisle to within four or five feet of the B&G and walked backwards in front of them all the way down the aisle.

Had exactly the same situation a few weddings ago and to make things worse also the guy leading the ceremony was walking backwards down the aisle as if he was pointing them the way to the altar (it was a big church so he thought they might get lost)
I was standing at the altar on a tripod and had a clear shot of the aisle...and the back of two guys. It took until the bride and her father reached the altar before I could get a clear shot of them both.

I think you can't prevent something like this, most times the photog makes a quick shot and runs down the isle, kneels down on the side and makes some more photo's before he clears the aisle so I always have a clear shot. Often I see them looking at me and then quickly move out of my shot.
the guys that don't look at you just want their moment in the best way and they don't care about you, that applies for a photog or in my case for the guy leading the ceremony, they are so preoccupied with what they are doing they often forget (or perhaps don't care) about others.

Now I don't worry about something like this anymore, if others get into an important shot, so be it, I never had a complaint about that. Same thing can happen with the rings when the priest holds the paper for the couple to read from and holds it exactly in front of their hands so I can't get the ring shot. Then I simply focus on both bride and groom.

Weddings always often run and gun, no second chances. If you forget to push the record button then it's your own fault but if someone else ruins the shot it's theirs and the couple will always understand that.

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November 5th, 2009, 07:41 AM	#77
Denny Lajeunesse Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC [Canada, Eh!] Posts: 53	Easy solution. Build a small EMP "bomb" (No it doesn't explode). Take batteries out of all your gear. Let lose EMP. You will no longer have to worry about any consumer electronics or Photographers DSLR's getting in your way. ;0) (Note: I jest.)

November 5th, 2009, 08:46 AM	#78
Andrew Smith Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 292	Actually, on a minor technical note, taking the batteries out will not save your equipment from an Electro Magnetic Pulse. Lead shielding will serve you better. Don't forget to include your mobile phone in there as well. Hope you don't have a pacemaker to rely on. Andrew

November 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM	#79
Denny Lajeunesse Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC [Canada, Eh!] Posts: 53	In another thread involving small children and annoying guests.... Tazers....

November 5th, 2009, 02:41 PM	#80
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 2,009	And my personal multipurpose invention, the Mk1 blowpod combo - monopod and blowgun/tranq dart administration device! Think the marketing campaign "no more blocked shots" should be a winner...

November 6th, 2009, 02:40 AM	#83
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 2,009	Not enough range for those "long shots" <wink>! And you don't want guests tripping over the wires... goal is to make it look like they feinted at the sight of the lovely bride <wink, wink>! Remember, discretion is important to the ninja pro video dude!

November 6th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#85
Denny Lajeunesse Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kelowna, BC [Canada, Eh!] Posts: 53	Simple, I'd chat with the video guy and figure out some shooting lanes.

November 6th, 2009, 04:23 PM	#86
James Workman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 27	If the wedding is being shot in HD, why even bother with a photographer during the ceremony? The videographer is shooting up to 30 still picture per second! Let the photog "stage" his shots after the ceremony, while everyone elese is getting drunk at the reception! ;)

November 7th, 2009, 02:08 AM	#87
Jason McDonald Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 80	I got an answer from one chapel: Apparently, some couples order a same-day-edit called "End Roll" which is featured at the end of their wedding. The videographer only needs to capture key moments and works for about 2 hours between the end of the service and the end of the banquet ceremony putting it all together. In this case the photographer knows where the videographer will be. The photography department has a higher responsibility in delivering the photos after x amount of months. When a couple has an entire wedding to do there are always 2 cameras in the chapel meaning that if a photographer or a friend/family member gets in the way of one shot, they have another angle to work with. Rarely are there 2 photographers in this particular chapel. There are always 2 videographers if the entire wedding is going to be captured.