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Michael Clark · November 18th, 2010, 07:27 PM

I just found out about two things I've never used before and I'm feeling pretty excited about them. I wondered if most people use these already, or if they are novelties for weddings. The first is PluralEyes. I downloaded the trial and it seems to have synced a ceremony perfectly. I haven't edited the footage yet, but it looks good so far. The second is just a feature in Premiere Pro that I'm sure is available in other programs. Nesting/Multi-Cam Editing a sequence. Seems like it'd be a great way to work through at least a rough cut of the ceremony, although a second go though would definitely be necessary. What are your thoughts on these?

Blake Cavett · November 18th, 2010, 07:47 PM

Once I heard of PluralEyes, I felt my life had new meaning.

Yes... it's THAT good.

Just click 'sync', go pop open a beer and come back and it's done.

It's not perfect and I have found it to be off by as many as 3 frames... but that's it. Barely noticeable.

Philip Howells · November 18th, 2010, 07:54 PM

We multicam almost everything. Syncing is so simple in our NLE (Liquid) I've never been tempted to consider anything else. IMHO three frames out is still out and will certainly cause a perceptible echo if applied to soundtracks.

Lukas Siewior · November 18th, 2010, 10:19 PM

I tried PluralEyes but it wont work with HDV footage (which is not cut by scenes). I'd have to pre-cut all footage prior to using PE :-(

But Multi-cam Editing is neat - great for long church ceremonies (when I know I have an hour of non-stop footage).

Susanto Widjaja · November 19th, 2010, 06:44 AM

pluraleyes is worth my every penny. especially since they upgraded to the latest version. i was like.. WOW.. thats a lot faster and a lot better in syncing!

you dont get everything synced everytime. but its a lot better than nothing.

Michael Clark · November 19th, 2010, 09:16 AM

Three frames is close enough for me to do the rest manually. I just edited two ceremonies (one was 40 minute 2-cam, the other was 25 minute 3-cam) in about 1 hour 45 minutes. That includes time to do manual adjustments for audio syncing and fixing video that needed cleaning up from multi-cam edits. I almost feel like I need to say that I'm NOT affiliated with PluralEyes, because I probably sound like a commercial! Anyhow, I'm glad to have found out about both of these. Significant decrease in workflow time. I shoot a couple non-english weddings a year, so this will be great for those especially.

D.J. Ammons · November 20th, 2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Siewior

I tried PluralEyes but it wont work with HDV footage (which is not cut by scenes). I'd have to pre-cut all footage prior to using PE :-(

But Multi-cam Editing is neat - great for long church ceremonies (when I know I have an hour of non-stop footage).

Lukas, we use PluralEyes all of the time to sync HDV footage in Sony Vegas Pro 8. We drop the various cams footage on the timeline and PluralEyes syncs it up with no problem. Then we multicam edit once the footage is synced.

Lukas Siewior · November 21st, 2010, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.J. Ammons

Lukas, we use PluralEyes all of the time to sync HDV footage in Sony Vegas Pro 8. We drop the various cams footage on the timeline and PluralEyes syncs it up with no problem. Then we multicam edit once the footage is synced.

DJ, does Vegas cuts footage by scenes during capturing tapes? I never understood any Premiere doesn't.

November 18th, 2010, 07:27 PM	#1
Michael Clark Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 244	PluralEyes and Multi-Cam Nesting I just found out about two things I've never used before and I'm feeling pretty excited about them. I wondered if most people use these already, or if they are novelties for weddings. The first is PluralEyes. I downloaded the trial and it seems to have synced a ceremony perfectly. I haven't edited the footage yet, but it looks good so far. The second is just a feature in Premiere Pro that I'm sure is available in other programs. Nesting/Multi-Cam Editing a sequence. Seems like it'd be a great way to work through at least a rough cut of the ceremony, although a second go though would definitely be necessary. What are your thoughts on these? __________________ www.clarkvideoproductions.com

November 18th, 2010, 07:47 PM	#2
Blake Cavett Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Madison Posts: 330	Once I heard of PluralEyes, I felt my life had new meaning. Yes... it's THAT good. Just click 'sync', go pop open a beer and come back and it's done. It's not perfect and I have found it to be off by as many as 3 frames... but that's it. Barely noticeable. __________________ I like my oatmeal lumpy.

November 19th, 2010, 06:44 AM	#5
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	pluraleyes is worth my every penny. especially since they upgraded to the latest version. i was like.. WOW.. thats a lot faster and a lot better in syncing! you dont get everything synced everytime. but its a lot better than nothing. __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

November 19th, 2010, 09:16 AM	#6
Michael Clark Major Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 244	Three frames is close enough for me to do the rest manually. I just edited two ceremonies (one was 40 minute 2-cam, the other was 25 minute 3-cam) in about 1 hour 45 minutes. That includes time to do manual adjustments for audio syncing and fixing video that needed cleaning up from multi-cam edits. I almost feel like I need to say that I'm NOT affiliated with PluralEyes, because I probably sound like a commercial! Anyhow, I'm glad to have found out about both of these. Significant decrease in workflow time. I shoot a couple non-english weddings a year, so this will be great for those especially. __________________ www.clarkvideoproductions.com

November 18th, 2010, 07:54 PM	#3
Philip Howells Trustee Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 1,212	We multicam almost everything. Syncing is so simple in our NLE (Liquid) I've never been tempted to consider anything else. IMHO three frames out is still out and will certainly cause a perceptible echo if applied to soundtracks.

November 18th, 2010, 10:19 PM	#4
Lukas Siewior Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lyndhurst, NJ, USA Posts: 408	I tried PluralEyes but it wont work with HDV footage (which is not cut by scenes). I'd have to pre-cut all footage prior to using PE :-( But Multi-cam Editing is neat - great for long church ceremonies (when I know I have an hour of non-stop footage).