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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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groom pockect audio recorder?

excuse me if this is a way to asked question...hope not so much..or easy answer from you.

i have zoom H-4 recorder but to big for pockect...

i have read many times about iRivers..and lapel...

now..up to date..what will you recomend for this job?
anything new or still iRiver?
lapel wired?


please, if you don't mind sharing the models..

thanks so much and hope not inconvinience.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #2
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

You can probably find the answer if you do a search for audio recorder. There are many good choices on the market today.

I use a Yamaha Pocketrack c24. It's about $150. It's very small, has 2Gb of internal memory and you can add a micro SD card as well. It has a pop out USB jack so you can transfer the files off of the internal memory, or you can also remove the Micro SD card for a faster transfer. It uses a single AAA battery that lasts for a long time.

I have heard good things about Giant Squid mics, but years ago I started using Azden EX-503 lapel mics with my mini Disc recorders, and I have continued to use them to this day. They sound decent and are only about $20. I am certainly open to suggestions on other lapel mics, but the EX-503s do sound good and you it's tough to get a good sounding lapel mic for $20.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #3
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The Zoom H1 is perfect for this situation. It's under $100 (or local equivalent) & runs all day off one AA battery. We get great results with cheap lav mics. These recorders are also useful in other situations as the built-in mics are decent quality too so you can stash the recorder anywhere near where you want to record (singer speaker etc).
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Old March 16th, 2012, 05:36 AM   #4
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These are great - I have 3 on the go - they are discontinued but you can pick em up on ebay for about 70

Olympus - WS-311M

And these mics do the job for me 25

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Old March 16th, 2012, 08:32 AM   #5
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The Zoom H1 runs all day off one AA battery.
you've got better batteries than me then!
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Old March 16th, 2012, 09:06 AM   #6
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you've got better batteries than me then!
A Duracell easily lasts 8+ hours. I seem to recall that there was a bad batch of H1s that drained the battery even when switched off. Zoom replaced these defective models on request.
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Old March 16th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #7
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

ah I see. Do you know any way of checking if they're affected (ie serial no) or is it just try it and see?
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #8
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ah I see. Do you know any way of checking if they're affected (ie serial no) or is it just try it and see?
I Googled this for you. Seems like it was a year or two ago but there is a reply from a guy in the UK who had his H1 replaced Zoom H1 Battery Drain? CheesyCam Korg are the UK distributor & where you get support SAMSON AUDIO UK :: Tech Support - Wireless Mics, Studio Equipment & PA
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Old April 5th, 2012, 05:02 PM   #9
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

I would second Nigel suggestion of the Zoom H1 with a lav mics. It’s small enough to fit into a pocket. I currently looking at sticking belt clip on to one of my Zooms for this very job. I bought 3 zoom for recording during the ceremony based on the advice I received here and it’s worked out well for me.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 05:52 PM   #10
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Tascam DR8 (the H1 counterpart) is what i have been using vs the H1.
H1 is too fat to fit on the pocket

this one is the best choice for this situation

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Old April 5th, 2012, 06:28 PM   #11
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

Micing the groom is one thing. But has anyone found the best setup for brides?
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Old April 5th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #12
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

Hi i'm very new to this scene, i was thinking the same thing re the bride! also i would be worried that I cant monitor the audio especially if it's in someone's pocket, has anyone experienced problems with lav mikes picking up rustling noise from clothing etc. I had considered this solutiion but eventually went for a wireless mike system.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 12:53 AM   #13
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

I've only shot a couple weddings and haven't done this yet, but you could plug the headphone jack of the sound board into one of the inputs on your Zoom and that way you can record all audio that comes out of the speakers?
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Old April 6th, 2012, 03:34 AM   #14
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Micing the groom is one thing. But has anyone found the best setup for brides?
Bride voice should pickup on the grooms mic. Don't even think about trying to mic a bride.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #15
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Re: groom pockect audio recorder?

A neat trick with the groom's lav is to position it a bit lower down on his jacket lapel..just a small amount so the distance from his mouth is a little bit further and then audio from the priest/officiant and the bride will be slightly low still but you can raise the gain a bit for that without having the groom's voice peaking into the red which it would do if the lav was right at the top of his lapel!!!

If you are brave enough to mic a bride, Gaint Squid used to make a white mic with white cable too...maybe you would have to hook the transmitter on one of the hoops inside her dress ...I haven't ever tried it of course!!! The norm at a Church wedding is just mic the groom, if the priest is going to stand right off to one side then a mic on him is needed and lastly a mic at the lectern for readings. I normally get away with two radio mics in Churches as our priest are quite happy to deliver their sermons either from the lectern or stand close to the couple.

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