A little something different...

Patrick Moreau · December 9th, 2005, 11:42 AM

I was going to ask the same thing as Mike, but I was wary of starting another debate.

I agree with what your saying above about this appealing to certain couples and being the grooms favourite piece. The dancing montage you couldn't get to load earlier is an example of how we try and bring that into the video. We take a take the editing to a different level but keep more of the content in there by using reception and mainly dancing footage. We have also experimented with some groom preps clips done to sublime and things like that which are very fast paced and different.

Thanks for sharing Glen.

Rick Steele · December 9th, 2005, 11:59 AM

Please everybody, continue to post your clips.

When I view them I find myself looking at the camera angles and transitionary points more each time. I see a lot of scenes that would normally be labled "uneventful" turned into very appealing segments based on what you guys do in post - *regardless* of music. Heck, after the first run-through I even turn the sound off just to make sure I'm looking at the video and not getting too caught up in the tune.

So again, please continue to share your post-editing skills. Mine have improved ten fold (I think) as a result of this and I do believe, that's part of what DVI is all about.

Jason Magbanua · December 9th, 2005, 07:31 PM

Hey Glen,

I remember you posting something like this some months back . I'm glad the usual suspects this time are more fun and game in front of the camera and that you've perfected the sequence.

great use of text and filters.
Very very nice.

Bob Costa · December 9th, 2005, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

And Patrick....

On the other hand, I do think this is a good example of style over content and found that while it looked amazing, it got repetitive pretty quickly and there wasn't much meaning in the footage.

[snip]

I should say that I am also biased as I don't do a credits piece simply because I see it as something that well it owuld be nice to show off for the first 15 seconds, is not liklely to be repeatedly watched, like a preps or highlights clip. Do you offer solid packages now that come with certain clips, or do you do each one as it comes?
That really depends. It's usually the groom's favorite part of the video...and often IS indeed watched several times. However that would depend on the couple...I'd assume that couples who wouldn't watch it more than once wouldn't pay the money to have one produced.

Thanks for the input.

OTOH, the credits may be the most important part of the video long term. 20 Years from now, the kids will be watching and may not recognize everyone. 50 years from now the B&G will be watching and may not recognize everyone (who are these people honey?). 100 years from now, no one will recognize anyone....

I think it is cool to spend the time to dress them up. I bet the entire wedding party wants their own copies too. A little extra income, Glen??

Glen Elliott · December 12th, 2005, 12:10 PM

This DVD hasn't been delivered yet thus I won't know if the bridal party would want their own copy. Interesting idea, however more than likely the couple will make additional copies of their own.

Some videographers get upset by this- however it really doesn't bother me. I'm not trying to make my money on extra copies. If they spend enough for your services you shouldn't have to nickel and dime them for extra copies...at least anything beyond being paid for the few minutes of time it takes to burn and print them plus the materials. I always give a good amount of copies with my packages. I figure if they have more copies they'll be more inclined to pass the extra copies around to friends and family. To me that free marketing.

James Landsburger · December 13th, 2005, 01:32 AM

Damn Glen - I'd love to see this clip, but it was removed so fast. I hope it wasn't because of these stupid "music" comments.

Give a brother a couple days... :-)

Vincent Croce · December 13th, 2005, 11:19 AM

yeah, I missed it too, Glen. How 'bout a repost for those of us a couple of days late?
Thanks either way.
Vin

Chris M. Watson · December 13th, 2005, 11:43 AM

Judging by the number of responses on this board and VU, I think it's pretty clear why the clip had to be pulled. Maybe we should try to figure out bittorrent for online clips to ease bandwidth for those who are sharing. I can't crack it myself.

CW

Glen Elliott · December 14th, 2005, 07:42 PM

Removed link.

James Landsburger · December 15th, 2005, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen Elliott

I've chosen to rehost it for a few days for those who haven't seen it....

http://home.comcast.net/~g.elliott3///Credits.wmv

You rock Glen! Thanks a bunch...

Vincent Croce · December 15th, 2005, 06:44 AM

Thanks for reposting, Glen. Very nice work, indeed (like we expected anything else?)
Vin

Ian Slessor · December 15th, 2005, 08:55 AM

GLEN!!!

Thanks for reposting that. I loved it, even though I had to wait 30 minutes due to my (emperor palpatine voice) "pitiful dialup."

The cuts, the fun. Yeah. Now that's a great extra for a wedding vid and love the music.

I've been doing dance recitals and am looking at getting into wedding videography and you're one of the people I look to for inspiration.

You set the bar pretty high.

If I can produce just half the quality that you display I know that I'll be on my way. I'll just need to work my way up the other half of your quality. From here that's quite a climb.

Well done.

sincerely,

ian

Glen Elliott · December 16th, 2005, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Slessor

GLEN!!!

Thanks for reposting that. I loved it, even though I had to wait 30 minutes due to my (emperor palpatine voice) "pitiful dialup."

The cuts, the fun. Yeah. Now that's a great extra for a wedding vid and love the music.

I've been doing dance recitals and am looking at getting into wedding videography and you're one of the people I look to for inspiration.

You set the bar pretty high.

If I can produce just half the quality that you display I know that I'll be on my way. I'll just need to work my way up the other half of your quality. From here that's quite a climb.

Well done.

sincerely,

ian

Thanks Ian for the kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

David McKnight · December 17th, 2005, 10:02 AM

YEAH! Awesome work as usual. It's been awhile since I've looked at your stuff, but every time I do...man oh man.

You still using Vegas? I know you were experimenting with FCP also.

Glen Elliott · December 17th, 2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David McKnight

YEAH! Awesome work as usual. It's been awhile since I've looked at your stuff, but every time I do...man oh man.

You still using Vegas? I know you were experimenting with FCP also.

Thanks Dave. Yeah still on Vegas- I sold my G5.

December 12th, 2005, 12:10 PM	#20
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	This DVD hasn't been delivered yet thus I won't know if the bridal party would want their own copy. Interesting idea, however more than likely the couple will make additional copies of their own. Some videographers get upset by this- however it really doesn't bother me. I'm not trying to make my money on extra copies. If they spend enough for your services you shouldn't have to nickel and dime them for extra copies...at least anything beyond being paid for the few minutes of time it takes to burn and print them plus the materials. I always give a good amount of copies with my packages. I figure if they have more copies they'll be more inclined to pass the extra copies around to friends and family. To me that free marketing. __________________ Glen Elliott Cord 3 Films

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December 9th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#16
Patrick Moreau Still Motion Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,186	I was going to ask the same thing as Mike, but I was wary of starting another debate. I agree with what your saying above about this appealing to certain couples and being the grooms favourite piece. The dancing montage you couldn't get to load earlier is an example of how we try and bring that into the video. We take a take the editing to a different level but keep more of the content in there by using reception and mainly dancing footage. We have also experimented with some groom preps clips done to sublime and things like that which are very fast paced and different. Thanks for sharing Glen.

December 9th, 2005, 11:59 AM	#17
Rick Steele Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado USA Posts: 654	Please everybody, continue to post your clips. When I view them I find myself looking at the camera angles and transitionary points more each time. I see a lot of scenes that would normally be labled "uneventful" turned into very appealing segments based on what you guys do in post - regardless of music. Heck, after the first run-through I even turn the sound off just to make sure I'm looking at the video and not getting too caught up in the tune. So again, please continue to share your post-editing skills. Mine have improved ten fold (I think) as a result of this and I do believe, that's part of what DVI is all about.

December 9th, 2005, 07:31 PM	#18
Jason Magbanua Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Manila Posts: 317	Hey Glen, I remember you posting something like this some months back . I'm glad the usual suspects this time are more fun and game in front of the camera and that you've perfected the sequence. great use of text and filters. Very very nice.

December 13th, 2005, 01:32 AM	#21
James Landsburger Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 58	Damn Glen - I'd love to see this clip, but it was removed so fast. I hope it wasn't because of these stupid "music" comments. Give a brother a couple days... :-)

December 13th, 2005, 11:19 AM	#22
Vincent Croce Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 263	yeah, I missed it too, Glen. How 'bout a repost for those of us a couple of days late? Thanks either way. Vin

December 13th, 2005, 11:43 AM	#23
Chris M. Watson Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 104	Judging by the number of responses on this board and VU, I think it's pretty clear why the clip had to be pulled. Maybe we should try to figure out bittorrent for online clips to ease bandwidth for those who are sharing. I can't crack it myself. CW

December 15th, 2005, 06:44 AM	#26
Vincent Croce Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fort Myers, FL Posts: 263	Thanks for reposting, Glen. Very nice work, indeed (like we expected anything else?) Vin

December 15th, 2005, 08:55 AM	#27
Ian Slessor Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South-Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 216	GLEN!!! Thanks for reposting that. I loved it, even though I had to wait 30 minutes due to my (emperor palpatine voice) "pitiful dialup." The cuts, the fun. Yeah. Now that's a great extra for a wedding vid and love the music. I've been doing dance recitals and am looking at getting into wedding videography and you're one of the people I look to for inspiration. You set the bar pretty high. If I can produce just half the quality that you display I know that I'll be on my way. I'll just need to work my way up the other half of your quality. From here that's quite a climb. Well done. sincerely, ian

December 17th, 2005, 10:02 AM	#29
David McKnight Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Texas City, TX Posts: 39	YEAH! Awesome work as usual. It's been awhile since I've looked at your stuff, but every time I do...man oh man. You still using Vegas? I know you were experimenting with FCP also.