Missing Tape - How would you handle this?

Mike Oveson · July 18th, 2007, 11:56 AM

You could also get really fancy and cut out different parts of the picture and layer them at different depths, giving the photo actual dimension. Seen it done before, but I'm not that big into using such an effect yet.

Ian Slessor · July 21st, 2007, 06:17 AM

What Mike said.

That is all.

ian

Mark Ganglfinger · July 21st, 2007, 10:09 PM

I have just experienced this recently (unfortunately). In almost 10 years I have lost only 2 tapes, both times they were for people I already knew and last minute jobs.
On this last one I had already given them almost half off my regular price (I am a wicked softy!) The tape I lost was one of 4 tapes, it was a 3 camera ceremony with 2 cams at the reception. So the tape I lost was 1 camera from the ceremony and the 1st half of the reception.
They were not in a hurry so they told me to just keep an eye out for it for a while and see if it turns up. I looked for four agonizing months and then went into editing.
It turned out to be a good video after all, but I still gave them $200 back on top of the several hundred I had already discounted them.
I didn't refund the money because I felt it was a bad video, but because I needed to punish myself so I wouldn't let it happen again.

I just feel better now, knowing that I am not the only videographer who has ever lost a tape!

Mark G

Travis Cossel · July 22nd, 2007, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Ganglfinger

I just feel better now, knowing that I am not the only videographer who has ever lost a tape!

Certainly not! As for me, I have just intensified my Type-A'ness. I now double-check the camera cases before I leave and do a tape count to make sure no tapes are missing.

For the original couple in question, I did a pretty outstanding job on their video without the missing footage. I've offered the bride 2 extra DVD copies and $100 off of her video as a consolation for the missing footage. I haven't heard back yet.

Ger Griffin · July 22nd, 2007, 09:48 AM

good for you Travis,
what doesn't kill us will only make us stronger.

Travis Cossel · July 25th, 2007, 12:39 PM

So the most unbelievalbe thing happened yesterday. I found the missing tape. It was with the next wedding's tapes. The thing is, I went through those tapes back when I was looking for the missing tape. Honestly this is a miracle. I can't tell you guys how hard I was praying for this tape to turn up, and now it has. Never underestimate the power of prayer.

Anyways, so I had already finished the edit and contacted the couple. They weren't sure about things and had requested to view the video to see what I had done. I agreed, but I was nervous as you might imagine.

But then I found the tape and told the couple yesterday. They were soooo happy. It turns out the father of the groom had been "giving them sh*t" ever since they started talking about paying for a professional video. He felt it was a waste of money to pay for a "so-called Spielberg". This poor couple did it anyways and endured more crap from him until the tape came up missing, and that obviously gave him an opportunity to really give it to them. I tell you guys this because we need to always understand that we might not know what issues the couple is dealing with behind the scenes.

Anyways, now I'm back to a perfect record of no lost tapes, thank God! Although I have to go back and do a re-edit of the reception now, I'm still very happy. If nothing else, now I at least have a system for making sure all tapes are accounted for BEFORE I leave the reception.

Dave Blackhurst · July 25th, 2007, 01:54 PM

Glad it all worked out, now go make us all proud <wink>!

Make sure you serve up a side of BBQ sauce for that dish of crow - I'll bet that video makes the FOG all tear-y eyed <wink>!

Douglas Villalba · July 25th, 2007, 01:55 PM

The WORD never comes back empty. ;-)

You should give the father the version with the missing tape since in the spiritual world he caused the tape to be misplaced. (Just Kidding about giving the father the missing tape version. The rest I truly believe)

Travis Cossel · July 25th, 2007, 03:25 PM

Yeah, I think I'll let the B&G serve him the crow and BBQ sauce, lol.

July 18th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#16
Mike Oveson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ogden, UT Posts: 349	You could also get really fancy and cut out different parts of the picture and layer them at different depths, giving the photo actual dimension. Seen it done before, but I'm not that big into using such an effect yet. __________________ Endless Images

July 25th, 2007, 12:39 PM	#21
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Miracle!!! So the most unbelievalbe thing happened yesterday. I found the missing tape. It was with the next wedding's tapes. The thing is, I went through those tapes back when I was looking for the missing tape. Honestly this is a miracle. I can't tell you guys how hard I was praying for this tape to turn up, and now it has. Never underestimate the power of prayer. Anyways, so I had already finished the edit and contacted the couple. They weren't sure about things and had requested to view the video to see what I had done. I agreed, but I was nervous as you might imagine. But then I found the tape and told the couple yesterday. They were soooo happy. It turns out the father of the groom had been "giving them sh*t" ever since they started talking about paying for a professional video. He felt it was a waste of money to pay for a "so-called Spielberg". This poor couple did it anyways and endured more crap from him until the tape came up missing, and that obviously gave him an opportunity to really give it to them. I tell you guys this because we need to always understand that we might not know what issues the couple is dealing with behind the scenes. Anyways, now I'm back to a perfect record of no lost tapes, thank God! Although I have to go back and do a re-edit of the reception now, I'm still very happy. If nothing else, now I at least have a system for making sure all tapes are accounted for BEFORE I leave the reception. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

July 25th, 2007, 01:55 PM	#23
Douglas Villalba Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 479	The WORD never comes back empty. ;-) You should give the father the version with the missing tape since in the spiritual world he caused the tape to be misplaced. (Just Kidding about giving the father the missing tape version. The rest I truly believe) __________________ Douglas Villalba - director/cinematographer/editor Miami, Florida, USA - www.DVtvPRODUCTIONS.com

July 25th, 2007, 03:25 PM	#24
Travis Cossel Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 2,933	Yeah, I think I'll let the B&G serve him the crow and BBQ sauce, lol. __________________ Black Label Films www.blacklabelweddingfilms.com

July 21st, 2007, 06:17 AM	#17
Ian Slessor Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South-Central Ontario, Canada Posts: 216	What Mike said. That is all. ian

July 21st, 2007, 10:09 PM	#18
Mark Ganglfinger Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hermon Maine USA Posts: 138	I have just experienced this recently (unfortunately). In almost 10 years I have lost only 2 tapes, both times they were for people I already knew and last minute jobs. On this last one I had already given them almost half off my regular price (I am a wicked softy!) The tape I lost was one of 4 tapes, it was a 3 camera ceremony with 2 cams at the reception. So the tape I lost was 1 camera from the ceremony and the 1st half of the reception. They were not in a hurry so they told me to just keep an eye out for it for a while and see if it turns up. I looked for four agonizing months and then went into editing. It turned out to be a good video after all, but I still gave them $200 back on top of the several hundred I had already discounted them. I didn't refund the money because I felt it was a bad video, but because I needed to punish myself so I wouldn't let it happen again. I just feel better now, knowing that I am not the only videographer who has ever lost a tape! Mark G

July 22nd, 2007, 09:48 AM	#20
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	good for you Travis, what doesn't kill us will only make us stronger.

July 25th, 2007, 01:54 PM	#22
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Glad it all worked out, now go make us all proud <wink>! Make sure you serve up a side of BBQ sauce for that dish of crow - I'll bet that video makes the FOG all tear-y eyed <wink>!