Mouse choice at DVinfo.net

Bob Magill · October 14th, 2007, 09:12 AM

What is the best type of mouse to use for video editing?

Mike Kujbida · October 14th, 2007, 09:21 AM

In all seriousness, a Shuttle Pro.
List is $110 but the B&H page says "email me a price" so I'm guessing that it's a lot cheaper.
I've already got one and am VERY happy with it.

Simon Gee · October 14th, 2007, 02:13 PM

do you know what the difference between a version 1 and version 2 Shuttlepro is?

Mike Kujbida · October 14th, 2007, 03:05 PM

Sorry Simon but I have no idea.
I bought mine earlier this year and it's a V2 model.

Dave Blackhurst · October 14th, 2007, 03:37 PM

Simon -
2 buttons... 15 instead of 13 (haven't used 'em all YET, but I'm TRYING!!) and a slightly more substantial feel (mainly weight if my memory is correct, sold my V1, own a couple V2 for editing stations)...

I believe the software is the same, function is identical...

Oh yeah, and V1 is silver, V2 is black... black matches my monitors better <wink>!

IMO jog/shuttle is worth the price of admission, the ability to set often used functions to buttons at will is a big timesaver.

I use the shuttle on my left, with a MX1000 logitech mouse on the right, hardly ever touch the kbd...

Edward Troxel · October 15th, 2007, 08:50 AM

Actually, functionality is slightly different. The V2 will allow one button to do multiple keypresses by pressing one button - the V1 will only assign a single keypress to one button.

Bob Magill · October 15th, 2007, 09:29 AM

Will I still need a mouse to drag events or does the Shuttlepro scroll like a mouse?

Edward Troxel · October 15th, 2007, 10:02 AM

You'll still need a mouse.

Seth Bloombaum · October 15th, 2007, 10:07 AM

You'll still need a mouse for point, click or drag functions.

The Shuttlepro gives you jog, shuttle, scrub, mark in, mark out, add, zoom in to timeline, zoom out, and more that I'm forgetting. You can also custom map the buttons to whatever you want.

I use my Shuttlepro... however, I'm also very focused on keyboard shortcuts, and have found the j-k-l shortcuts most useful.

J - scrub backwards, K - pause, L - scrub forwards.

Hold down k and hit L once, slow forward, additional hits = faster.

Hit j once for 1x, additional hits = faster.

And so on.

Steven Davis · October 15th, 2007, 11:25 AM

My two cents:

Since I have a job inputing data during the day, and then I edit at night, lunch and weekends, I was having issues with using a mouse and fatigue.

I realized it had a lot to do with my wrist movement as well as 'gripping' the mouse itself.

So I switched to a Logitech Trackball. It took me about two weeks before I got the hang of it, and now, with exception to first person shooters, I use a track ball almost exclusively. The one I use is http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi...s/159&cl=us,en

This was probably too much information, but I hope it helps.

Dave Blackhurst · October 15th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

Actually, functionality is slightly different. The V2 will allow one button to do multiple keypresses by pressing one button - the V1 will only assign a single keypress to one button.

Hi Edward -
Just to prevent misinformation if I'm wrong (DVInfo is a great resource, don't want to get the facts wrong, and since I don't have a V1 anymore I can't "fact check" myself...).

Is the multiple keystroke function in the software or the hardware - thought that updated software would allow the V1 to have programmable keystrokes? Or does it recognize it's a V1 and won't allow the programming?

Edward Troxel · October 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM

I have the V1 and did do some searching when I discovered the V2 *did* allow multiple keystrokes. At that time, it was only available on the V2 and not supported on the V1. I'm not sure if that has changed since then.

Simon Gee · October 15th, 2007, 01:54 PM

well my bid on ebay just won a V1 shuttle...not the best deal bid I have ever put in but about 1/3 price of new...looking forward to getting my workflow speeded up and slicker...thanks for the tips...might come back to you guys asking where to get V1/V2 software if this thing doesn't ship with it (its used).
S

Mike Kujbida · October 15th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Gee

...where to get V1/V2 software if this thing doesn't ship with it (its used).

Just in case :-)
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Jason Robinson · October 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM

I used one of those Logitech trackball mice for a while, but noticed that my thumb got cramped very easily. It was just too much movement dedicated to one finger. I might use one of the larger ball mice (where several fingers are involved) but for now, I just use a Logitech MX500. Good shape, and smooth movement.

October 14th, 2007, 09:12 AM	#1
Bob Magill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 68	Mouse choice What is the best type of mouse to use for video editing?

October 15th, 2007, 08:50 AM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Actually, functionality is slightly different. The V2 will allow one button to do multiple keypresses by pressing one button - the V1 will only assign a single keypress to one button. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 15th, 2007, 10:02 AM	#8
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You'll still need a mouse. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 15th, 2007, 11:25 AM	#10
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	My two cents: Since I have a job inputing data during the day, and then I edit at night, lunch and weekends, I was having issues with using a mouse and fatigue. I realized it had a lot to do with my wrist movement as well as 'gripping' the mouse itself. So I switched to a Logitech Trackball. It took me about two weeks before I got the hang of it, and now, with exception to first person shooters, I use a track ball almost exclusively. The one I use is http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi...s/159&cl=us,en This was probably too much information, but I hope it helps. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

October 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	I have the V1 and did do some searching when I discovered the V2 did allow multiple keystrokes. At that time, it was only available on the V2 and not supported on the V1. I'm not sure if that has changed since then. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 14th, 2007, 09:21 AM	#2
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	In all seriousness, a Shuttle Pro. List is $110 but the B&H page says "email me a price" so I'm guessing that it's a lot cheaper. I've already got one and am VERY happy with it.

October 14th, 2007, 02:13 PM	#3
Simon Gee Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United kingdom Posts: 51	do you know what the difference between a version 1 and version 2 Shuttlepro is?

October 14th, 2007, 03:05 PM	#4
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Sorry Simon but I have no idea. I bought mine earlier this year and it's a V2 model.

October 14th, 2007, 03:37 PM	#5
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Simon - 2 buttons... 15 instead of 13 (haven't used 'em all YET, but I'm TRYING!!) and a slightly more substantial feel (mainly weight if my memory is correct, sold my V1, own a couple V2 for editing stations)... I believe the software is the same, function is identical... Oh yeah, and V1 is silver, V2 is black... black matches my monitors better <wink>! IMO jog/shuttle is worth the price of admission, the ability to set often used functions to buttons at will is a big timesaver. I use the shuttle on my left, with a MX1000 logitech mouse on the right, hardly ever touch the kbd...

October 15th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#7
Bob Magill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 68	Will I still need a mouse to drag events or does the Shuttlepro scroll like a mouse?

October 15th, 2007, 10:07 AM	#9
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	You'll still need a mouse for point, click or drag functions. The Shuttlepro gives you jog, shuttle, scrub, mark in, mark out, add, zoom in to timeline, zoom out, and more that I'm forgetting. You can also custom map the buttons to whatever you want. I use my Shuttlepro... however, I'm also very focused on keyboard shortcuts, and have found the j-k-l shortcuts most useful. J - scrub backwards, K - pause, L - scrub forwards. Hold down k and hit L once, slow forward, additional hits = faster. Hit j once for 1x, additional hits = faster. And so on.

October 15th, 2007, 01:54 PM	#13
Simon Gee Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United kingdom Posts: 51	well my bid on ebay just won a V1 shuttle...not the best deal bid I have ever put in but about 1/3 price of new...looking forward to getting my workflow speeded up and slicker...thanks for the tips...might come back to you guys asking where to get V1/V2 software if this thing doesn't ship with it (its used). S

October 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM	#15
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	Logitech Thumb Ball Mice I used one of those Logitech trackball mice for a while, but noticed that my thumb got cramped very easily. It was just too much movement dedicated to one finger. I might use one of the larger ball mice (where several fingers are involved) but for now, I just use a Logitech MX500. Good shape, and smooth movement.