Elements of still images "moving": can Vegas do this? at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

What Happens in Vegas...
...stays in Vegas! This PC-based editing app is a safe bet with these tips.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 19th, 2008, 02:59 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 409
Elements of still images "moving": can Vegas do this?

I think a forum member runs this website: http://www.reelinspirations.com/

Under the "Commercials" tab, there is a dirtbike piece of still images, with the bikes seemingly moving independently of the background image during mid-jump. How was this done? Two images? Same one? I viewed several times and I couldn't tell.

Thanks,
Steve

p.s. Sorry if this is old. I searched first but couldn't find an answer.
Steven Reid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 19th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #2
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,609
this effect is really something that is more easily produced in a photo editor like photoshop then brought back into Vegas. Depending on the footage though it is quite time consuming but used properly (and sparingly) it can add a very dramatic effect to many types of videos. It requires layers and masking (at least that's the way I do it in photoshop) and in Vegas then you can add pan/crop or track motion to achieve the look of movement.
It could be done in Vegas but it would require using the Bezier mask in the pan/crop window and I believe it would be much more painful ;-) than in photoshop.
Don
Don Bloom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 19th, 2008, 04:23 PM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor, ON Canada
Posts: 2,765
At the bottom of the page that the dirtbike pictures are on, the company says:
"...we took the images into Photoshop and then After Effects to create a fresh 3D look".

As Don says, it can be done in Vegas but it will take some work.
From looking at the images on the site though, it looks to me like all it would take is a dirtbike image and proper use of the Pan/Crop tool.
Never having done this before though, I could be greatly mistaken :-)
Mike Kujbida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 19th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 409
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Kujbida View Post
At the bottom of the page that the dirtbike pictures are on, the company says:
"...we took the images into Photoshop and then After Effects to create a fresh 3D look".

As Don says, it can be done in Vegas but it will take some work.
From looking at the images on the site though, it looks to me like all it would take is a dirtbike image and proper use of the Pan/Crop tool.
Never having done this before though, I could be greatly mistaken :-)
Whoops. I should have read the small print at the bottom more carefully. Thanks for the replies. I thought it would be easy to use the pan/crop tool of a dirtbike image over a background (2 separate images, in total), but these pictures looked like everything was 'native'. Since I have neither PS or AE, I'll avoid what seems like a tedious process in Vegas.

Best,
Steve
Steven Reid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 19th, 2008, 04:48 PM   #5
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor, ON Canada
Posts: 2,765
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Reid View Post
Since I have neither PS or AE, I'll avoid what seems like a tedious process in Vegas.
You don't want to have some "fun" for a few hours/days/weeks playing?
If you're looking for an open source (i.e. free) equivalent to PS, give GIMP a try.
Mike Kujbida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 20th, 2008, 05:07 AM   #6
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 409
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Kujbida View Post
You don't want to have some "fun" for a few hours/days/weeks playing?
If you're looking for an open source (i.e. free) equivalent to PS, give GIMP a try.
Not that kind of 'fun.' ;) My learning curve is steep enough. Thanks for GIMP recommendation; I use PS Elements, but I'm not sure if that is powerful enough to accomplish this effect.
Steven Reid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 20th, 2008, 09:27 AM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sayreville, NJ
Posts: 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Reid View Post
Not that kind of 'fun.' ;)I use PS Elements, but I'm not sure if that is powerful enough to accomplish this effect.
Why not? All you really need PS for is to separate out several elements of the image so that they can be panned and zoomed independently of each other (PS Elements can handle that). You'll do the zooming and panning using Vegas's Pan/Crop tool.

The February 2008 issue of Videomaker Magazine had an excellent tutorial on doing this (they called it "2.5d Animation"). You can find it here: http://www.videomaker.com/article/13742/

That should give you a better idea of how it's done.

To see the "Polar Classic" video in action, go here: http://www.videomaker.com/video/contest-winners/2005/ and you'll find it near the very bottom of the page next to the title "1st Prize - Beijing Golf Video-2005 Polar Classic"

- Frank.
Frank Genus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 20th, 2008, 12:23 PM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 409
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Genus View Post
Why not? All you really need PS for is to separate out several elements of the image so that they can be panned and zoomed independently of each other (PS Elements can handle that). You'll do the zooming and panning using Vegas's Pan/Crop tool.

The February 2008 issue of Videomaker Magazine had an excellent tutorial on doing this (they called it "2.5d Animation"). You can find it here: http://www.videomaker.com/article/13742/

That should give you a better idea of how it's done.

To see the "Polar Classic" video in action, go here: http://www.videomaker.com/video/contest-winners/2005/ and you'll find it near the very bottom of the page next to the title "1st Prize - Beijing Golf Video-2005 Polar Classic"

- Frank.
<smacks hand into forehead> I'm a subscriber, and I have that very issue sitting above my editing system. Thanks for the accurate citation. I'll give that another read!

Steve
Steven Reid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 22nd, 2008, 09:37 AM   #9
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 8,421
While this may add nothing to the discussion, I'd like to throw in that I find the process to create that effect is extremley simple, just takes about an hour or less the way I do it.

I use Fireworks, (not photoshop) I simply trace/cut the image of the bike and save it as a .png with transparent background, put it on the timeline above the photo of the dirt track then as has been said use pan/crop to create movement and it's done. I once attempted to cut out a photo in photoshop and couldn't figure it out so I have stuck with Fireworks, which works fine. Learning the finer points of tracing and cutting out images takes the longest time but once you've done a few times it's not so bad. I find it extremely tedious but it really is simple to do.
Jeff Harper is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:46 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network