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Old April 26th, 2008, 02:58 PM   #1
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How to get wide screen look in vimeo

What settings do I need to get my videos to look like this on vimeo
http://www.vimeo.com/937985

I tried to render as a MP4 1920 X 1080 but it looks like this
http://www.vimeo.com/943535

I used a Sony Sr12 and shot at 1920X1080. My project settings in vegas were the same.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #2
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You need to render at 1280X720.

http://www.vimeo.com/help/hd
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #3
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Maybe I don't understand but your video is 16x9 widescreen
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #4
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No thats not it. All of my videos are rendered at 1280X720.

What Im after is the look in the first clip I posted. I dont think the ratio is different with either 1920X1080 which is 1.78 and 1280X720 wihich is also 1.78.


So it must be the way the video is shot.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:28 PM   #5
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Maybe I don't understand but your video is 16x9 widescreen
Exactly So what is the difference between these 2 videos that I posted above?

This is what I want to look like (not my video)
http://www.vimeo.com/937985

This is what My videos look like
http://www.vimeo.com/943535
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:39 PM   #6
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Vimeo does not support 1920X1080, so when you upload in that format it gets converted to 1440X1080, which resembles 4:3 rather than 16:9. If you want your uploaded videos to have the same look as broadcast widescreen content you have to render at 1280X720. You stated in your first post that you were rendering to 1920X1080, but now you say you didn't. Which is it?

Did you read the link I posted from Vimeo?
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #7
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No thats not it. All of my videos are rendered at 1280X720.

What Im after is the look in the first clip I posted. I dont think the ratio is different with either 1920X1080 which is 1.78 and 1280X720 wihich is also 1.78.


So it must be the way the video is shot.
No, the ratio isn't different. What is different is the conversion that Vimeo does to it after you upload it. If you render to 1280X720 you will have no problems.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #8
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Vimeo does not support 1920X1080, so when you upload in that format it gets converted to 1440X1080, which resembles 4:3 rather than 16:9. If you want your uploaded videos to have the same look as broadcast widescreen content you have to render at 1280X720. You stated in your first post that you were rendering to 1920X1080, but now you say you didn't. Which is it?

Did you read the link I posted from Vimeo?
Yes I have read this before. Where in this link does it say that a video uploaded at 1920X1080 is down sized to 1440X1080??

It doesnt.. Everything gets sized to 1280X720. I Know that.

I render all of my videos at 1280X720 BUT the one I posted the link to that says this is what my video looked like is rendered at 1920X1080.

I thought by doing so I would get the look of the death valley video as he rendered his video at 1920X1080.

My question is how do I get my video to look like the first video I posted (the death valley video. It looks to have a width of 1920 and a height of of 780.

So it must be a crop or did Phillip Bloom shoot the Death valley video in another format?
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Old April 26th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #9
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I set up a crop window to mimic what the death valley video looks like.

I had to crop my 1920X1080 video to 1920X780 to get the same effect.

But I crop out alot of image where the death valley video manages to preserve it possibly due to a wide angle lens being used. I never thought of it until it was suggested he is using a wide anlge adapter or something since he is using a Letus Extreme.

I questioned this effect at first since I noticed he rendered at 1920X1080 in vimeo and I thought the conversion to 1280X720 produced this effect. But thats makes no sense anyway since the ratios between 1920X1080 and 1280X720 are the same
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Old April 26th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #10
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Paul...

Are you doing your crop conversions in the "pan/crop" mode in Vegas?
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Old April 26th, 2008, 06:43 PM   #11
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Paul...

Are you doing your crop conversions in the "pan/crop" mode in Vegas?
yes

I think the 780 height is a little to small though
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Old April 26th, 2008, 06:46 PM   #12
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I set up a crop window to mimic what the death valley video looks like.

I had to crop my 1920X1080 video to 1920X780 to get the same effect.

But I crop out alot of image where the death valley video manages to preserve it possibly due to a wide angle lens being used. I never thought of it until it was suggested he is using a wide anlge adapter or something since he is using a Letus Extreme.

I questioned this effect at first since I noticed he rendered at 1920X1080 in vimeo and I thought the conversion to 1280X720 produced this effect. But thats makes no sense anyway since the ratios between 1920X1080 and 1280X720 are the same
Not sure what effect you are referring to, but changing the pixel dimensions of your final output does not crop the picture in any way. Vegas will stretch or squish the video to fit whatever dimensions you choose to output to, but it will not crop the video. Any cropping has to be done in edit and before you output/render your video.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #13
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Project Properties

Your project properties should be 1280x720. Your pan/crop, set by clicking on the pan/crop button on each video clip, should not be set to default, but to 1.85:1, or 2.35:1, or whatever you choose. You should render to an MP4 at 1280x720, pixel aspect ratio 1:1, 4500-6500 Kbps. That should work, if you're using Sony Vegas and what you're trying to achieve is a 720P file with a crop, like the video you showed. I do this all the time in Vegas.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 08:07 PM   #14
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Your project properties should be 1280x720. Your pan/crop, set by clicking on the pan/crop button on each video clip, should not be set to default, but to 1.85:1, or 2.35:1, or whatever you choose. You should render to an MP4 at 1280x720, pixel aspect ratio 1:1, 4500-6500 Kbps. That should work, if you're using Sony Vegas and what you're trying to achieve is a 720P file with a crop, like the video you showed. I do this all the time in Vegas.

Yep perfect thanks.
Thats what other have said as well. I will do exactly that. Im sure there are reason why its done that have been discovered and discussed long befor this post. But that particular aspect ratio or crop in that video "Death Valley" by Philip Bloom really worked well with the camera work and editing
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Old April 26th, 2008, 08:20 PM   #15
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Philip shot that with a 2.35:1 crop. Both your's and his is "widescreen" his is just "wider".

So, apply a 2:35:1 crop/mask to your image and you got it... you'll still have to encode to 1280x720 for vimeo HD I do believe.
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