Any Core I7 users yet?

Jeff Harper · March 7th, 2009, 06:18 AM

Andy, that is great. I have an 850 also. I actually wonder if mine isn't holding me back from 4.0!

Andy Todzia · March 7th, 2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

Andy, that is great. I have an 850 also. I actually wonder if mine isn't holding me back from 4.0!

I experimented a little more this morning and was able to get to 3.9 GHz stable with max. core temp. of 68 C. I tried 4 GHz and crashed once during boot and then after running Prime95 for about 5 minutes so I am going to stay at 3.9 GHz and be happy. This chip was a real bargain, considering what you can get out of it.

Andy

Dale Guthormsen · March 7th, 2009, 11:04 AM

Kinda good Morning,

I spoke to soon!!!!!

After capturing two hours of video last night today the HD Link says the device is not hooked up !!!! Vegas says Device not available!!!

I hear the beep when the computer recognizes the camera too. Actually it is a double beep so i wonder if it rreceives the input then beeps immediately as there is no connection?

I have a spare fire wire card on the shelf and I am about ready to install it and see.

Update

I switched the dial to the ext.cont. position and back. hd link recognized the camera but then shut down. I popped up Vegas 8.0c and low and behold all was well so I am capturing.

the camera works fine on my old computer it is just to slow to do the job right.

It seems like if you shock the computer somehow it then recognizes the camera.

Go figure??? Is it a vista issue you think?

More frustrated than ever!!

Jeff Harper · March 7th, 2009, 12:49 PM

Dale, it sounds like a motherboard issue, but who knows. One reason I ditched my Dell is it was woefully underpowered, and the onboard controllers were flaky. You might for one thing check into seeing if your model Dell has a more powerful power supply unit available.

Dale Guthormsen · March 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Jeff,

I have had a dell p4 for 6 years and it has been super reliable with xp pro. Just not fast enough for todays work.

That is why I went with dell. Perhaps I should have gone with the xps730, which is higher powered for gaming.

If I install a pci fire wire card will it work seperately from the existing one??

I did not have this problem till after I used 8.1 to optimize the 64 bit rendering! I restored prior to that and it worked one time then shut down.

I am going to call Dell tomarrow.

I was wondering if others with the XPS 435 MT were having any similar problems.

Here are a list of the programs I have on it, perhaps one interfers?
Vegas pro 8c & 8.1
seneform
Mercalli
Excaliber
Adobe photoshop

some original programs that came with it but most stuff removed. None of the above causes in my xp dual core amd 4200. Two years back I tried to run vista on this "Vista ready Machine" and never got it right and went back to xp.

Jeff Harper · March 7th, 2009, 07:05 PM

Dale, good luck, sounds very frustrating.

Edward Troxel · March 7th, 2009, 07:25 PM

A separate PCI Firewire card should not interfere with the built-in one. That would definitely be a good test.

As another test, try a different CABLE.

As a third test, try the camera on a different computer as well.

I see no software in your list that would interfere with the firewire usage.

Dale Guthormsen · March 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Edward, Jeff,

I was on the horn with Dell for 2 hours, Rebuilt the software clean start.

I tested every thing several times over, shut her down twice and re started and all was well.

I went to shoot an event from 2 to 4. Got home, fired it up, Same problems!!!!

I opend it up and it has no pci slots!!! only pci express, so the spare card I have can't even go into it!!.

On the phone tomarrow morning!!!

NOT HAPPY

fortunately my job today (has to be done by wednesday) is in DV so i I am working on my old media center, however slo it may be!!

Vista has an auto start up program and i was wondering if that is getting in the way as it wants to use a windows program to capture.

Jeff Harper · March 8th, 2009, 08:10 PM

Dale, I have had some issues with Vegas 8.1. Most people haven't, but I had preview issues with it. It was just real flaky for me in several ways.

I tried it on my new i7 and it STILL doesn't work correctly (for me).

If you have 8.1 installed, try looking at that. You might uninstall it and forget about it until you get 8.0c working, and then try it again. Personally with your nice processor you could probably live without 8.1 anyway.

It is likely not the cause of your problems, but at least it would eliminate one possible thing until you get your issues straighted out. I can tell you after trying it for the third time on a third PC I was glad to be rid of it, it never did anything for me.

It appears that in some cases the lower end Dell i7 PCs are built using controllers/MBs with issues.

My previous Dell (it was a workstation) had SATA contoller issues, they came out and replaced my MB twice, my firewire card twice.

They were as helpful as could be, but in the end I determined the PC I had chosen was not built for the demands of video and I built my own. The 350 watt PSU was likely the source of many issues. I know when I replaced the Dell I was awfully happy. I struggled with it for 18 months, and got a lot of good service out of it, but was sure glad to see it go. It was my fault...I shouldn't have chosen such a small system...

Alastair Brown · March 8th, 2009, 09:01 PM

HDVSplit utility for HDV capturing with scene split - HDV capture utility

You could try capturing using HDV Split. It gets pretty good press and, I think has the benefit of allowing you to silence audio on capture which then allows you to edit another project in peace!

Bryan Daugherty · March 10th, 2009, 01:54 PM

Dale-An interim solution for the project you are currently working on might be to transfer your captures and project file to an external drive (assuming you have one) and then you could at least edit and render on your newer faster system. Like Jeff, I too found my out of the box Dell systems lacking for my video needs and built my own system around a core 2 quad. I am looking forward to building an i7 soon. I loved the tech support with my old Dell and have been generally impressed with them but to get the system I really need i found DIY was the way to go... Good luck with your system and I hope you get the issues worked out.

Dale Guthormsen · March 10th, 2009, 04:57 PM

Good afternoon,

Well after a couple hours on the horn to Dell we have the computer working like it should. Took a reinstall of everything.

I suspected software conflict within the system.

I have run several tests and it is alright.

I have not reinstalled 8.1, 8.0 does just fine, as some on here mentioned prior!! I should have listened.

I am reinstalling my work oriented softwares one at a time and running tests, so far so good.

This computer renders and burns dvd's so fast it is frightening.

I got my job done today for tomarrows deadline!!!

I burnt my first BR onto a dvd and I must say I love the quality.

Hope things stay in tune!!!

Jeff Harper · March 10th, 2009, 05:04 PM

Wow, Dale, that IS good news! Hoooray!

Dale Guthormsen · March 13th, 2009, 09:31 AM

While this I 7 is an amazing machine and generally the 64 bit has been good. However, apparently Adobe flash 10 is not supported.

Two questions?

Do any of you have a dual boot system with vista 64 on on and Xp on the other?? (is there any problem doing that or would one need both to be xp or vista?)

I have found some programs do not go into the 86x profile.

If I needed flash which I do on occassions the xp would cover that as well.

Or, how would you run a 32 bit browser on a 64 bit machinne?????

Jeff Harper · March 13th, 2009, 11:34 AM

I don't have dual boot Dale.

I want to pass along that the i7 920 is at Microcenter for $229.

March 7th, 2009, 11:04 AM	#213
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Kinda good Morning, I spoke to soon!!!!! After capturing two hours of video last night today the HD Link says the device is not hooked up !!!! Vegas says Device not available!!! I hear the beep when the computer recognizes the camera too. Actually it is a double beep so i wonder if it rreceives the input then beeps immediately as there is no connection? I have a spare fire wire card on the shelf and I am about ready to install it and see. Update I switched the dial to the ext.cont. position and back. hd link recognized the camera but then shut down. I popped up Vegas 8.0c and low and behold all was well so I am capturing. the camera works fine on my old computer it is just to slow to do the job right. It seems like if you shock the computer somehow it then recognizes the camera. Go figure??? Is it a vista issue you think? More frustrated than ever!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM	#215
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Jeff, I have had a dell p4 for 6 years and it has been super reliable with xp pro. Just not fast enough for todays work. That is why I went with dell. Perhaps I should have gone with the xps730, which is higher powered for gaming. If I install a pci fire wire card will it work seperately from the existing one?? I did not have this problem till after I used 8.1 to optimize the 64 bit rendering! I restored prior to that and it worked one time then shut down. I am going to call Dell tomarrow. I was wondering if others with the XPS 435 MT were having any similar problems. Here are a list of the programs I have on it, perhaps one interfers? Vegas pro 8c & 8.1 seneform Mercalli Excaliber Adobe photoshop some original programs that came with it but most stuff removed. None of the above causes in my xp dual core amd 4200. Two years back I tried to run vista on this "Vista ready Machine" and never got it right and went back to xp. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 7th, 2009, 07:25 PM	#217
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	A separate PCI Firewire card should not interfere with the built-in one. That would definitely be a good test. As another test, try a different CABLE. As a third test, try the camera on a different computer as well. I see no software in your list that would interfere with the firewire usage. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 8th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#218
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Edward, Jeff, I was on the horn with Dell for 2 hours, Rebuilt the software clean start. I tested every thing several times over, shut her down twice and re started and all was well. I went to shoot an event from 2 to 4. Got home, fired it up, Same problems!!!! I opend it up and it has no pci slots!!! only pci express, so the spare card I have can't even go into it!!. On the phone tomarrow morning!!! NOT HAPPY fortunately my job today (has to be done by wednesday) is in DV so i I am working on my old media center, however slo it may be!! Vista has an auto start up program and i was wondering if that is getting in the way as it wants to use a windows program to capture. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 10th, 2009, 01:54 PM	#221
Bryan Daugherty Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, Ky - USA Posts: 552	Dale-An interim solution for the project you are currently working on might be to transfer your captures and project file to an external drive (assuming you have one) and then you could at least edit and render on your newer faster system. Like Jeff, I too found my out of the box Dell systems lacking for my video needs and built my own system around a core 2 quad. I am looking forward to building an i7 soon. I loved the tech support with my old Dell and have been generally impressed with them but to get the system I really need i found DIY was the way to go... Good luck with your system and I hope you get the issues worked out. __________________ 3x-HD1000u - Ikan 8000HD- custom i7 PC - Vegas Pro 13 and 11 64 bit - Premiere Pro CS4 - and a whole mess of other equipment...

March 7th, 2009, 06:18 AM	#211
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Andy, that is great. I have an 850 also. I actually wonder if mine isn't holding me back from 4.0!

March 7th, 2009, 12:49 PM	#214
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Dale, it sounds like a motherboard issue, but who knows. One reason I ditched my Dell is it was woefully underpowered, and the onboard controllers were flaky. You might for one thing check into seeing if your model Dell has a more powerful power supply unit available.

March 7th, 2009, 07:05 PM	#216
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Dale, good luck, sounds very frustrating.

March 8th, 2009, 08:10 PM	#219
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Dale, I have had some issues with Vegas 8.1. Most people haven't, but I had preview issues with it. It was just real flaky for me in several ways. I tried it on my new i7 and it STILL doesn't work correctly (for me). If you have 8.1 installed, try looking at that. You might uninstall it and forget about it until you get 8.0c working, and then try it again. Personally with your nice processor you could probably live without 8.1 anyway. It is likely not the cause of your problems, but at least it would eliminate one possible thing until you get your issues straighted out. I can tell you after trying it for the third time on a third PC I was glad to be rid of it, it never did anything for me. It appears that in some cases the lower end Dell i7 PCs are built using controllers/MBs with issues. My previous Dell (it was a workstation) had SATA contoller issues, they came out and replaced my MB twice, my firewire card twice. They were as helpful as could be, but in the end I determined the PC I had chosen was not built for the demands of video and I built my own. The 350 watt PSU was likely the source of many issues. I know when I replaced the Dell I was awfully happy. I struggled with it for 18 months, and got a lot of good service out of it, but was sure glad to see it go. It was my fault...I shouldn't have chosen such a small system...

March 8th, 2009, 09:01 PM	#220
Alastair Brown Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Glasgow/Scotland Posts: 626	HDVSplit utility for HDV capturing with scene split - HDV capture utility You could try capturing using HDV Split. It gets pretty good press and, I think has the benefit of allowing you to silence audio on capture which then allows you to edit another project in peace!

March 10th, 2009, 04:57 PM	#222
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Good afternoon, Well after a couple hours on the horn to Dell we have the computer working like it should. Took a reinstall of everything. I suspected software conflict within the system. I have run several tests and it is alright. I have not reinstalled 8.1, 8.0 does just fine, as some on here mentioned prior!! I should have listened. I am reinstalling my work oriented softwares one at a time and running tests, so far so good. This computer renders and burns dvd's so fast it is frightening. I got my job done today for tomarrows deadline!!! I burnt my first BR onto a dvd and I must say I love the quality. Hope things stay in tune!!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 10th, 2009, 05:04 PM	#223
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Wow, Dale, that IS good news! Hoooray!

March 13th, 2009, 09:31 AM	#224
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	dual boot drives and os While this I 7 is an amazing machine and generally the 64 bit has been good. However, apparently Adobe flash 10 is not supported. Two questions? Do any of you have a dual boot system with vista 64 on on and Xp on the other?? (is there any problem doing that or would one need both to be xp or vista?) I have found some programs do not go into the 86x profile. If I needed flash which I do on occassions the xp would cover that as well. Or, how would you run a 32 bit browser on a 64 bit machinne????? __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 13th, 2009, 11:34 AM	#225
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	I don't have dual boot Dale. I want to pass along that the i7 920 is at Microcenter for $229.

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