I love Vegas but what others don't?
I'm editing a film with Vegas 7e, shot in HDV, at my own pace, taking my time. I just love everything in Vegas. It does so much more that what I need and I have absolutely no complaint about this sofware.
But, having said that, I've start looking at job offers on Craig's list and everybody who is advertizing an editing position requires applicants to be fluent and proficient in FCP. Why is that? Do you think it's because Vegas is not known? I had one interview in which I showed clips of my film to the prospective employer, he really likes what he saw, but I could tell he was kind of hesitant to hire me because I didn't use FCP to edit. I can't believe this What are your take on this? Thanks Larry |
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I've been using Vegas now for about two years. I agree with you in that it's a great product but I think I'd have a hard time arguing that it's actually better than FCP. Besides, flame wars over what editor is better are usually suited to those with too much time on their hands. In the end, these software NLE editors are really just different tools to accomplish art. They are virtually do the 95% of about the same thing with the differences usually limited to 'extra's' that really aren't needed or just a different way of accomplishing the same task. If people spent more time trying to master their NLE of choice and less time studying to find which one is supposedly the best, there would be much better content out there. Anyhow, from the employer's perspective, if they have to work you into a FCP team or workflow, they need you to know that software and for good reason. You should probably take the plunge and get FCP and learn it. You may find that your existing experience with Vegas will give you a quick learning curve there and may be able to integrate the two with whatever job you end up getting.. Jon |
Vegas is a great tool... as long as you do everything in Vegas. It's when you start having to collaborate that it really falls down. Now I say this as a fan of Vegas, and it's been my primary editing tool since Version 5. But when you need to integrate with other programs doing titling, audio, special effects, coloring, etc., it really shows it's limitations.
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I feel the requirement, although somewhat justified in some cases, is discriminatory to those, who can't afford an Apple computer, because there is no FCP for Windows or Linux (to my knowledge) and Vegas in itself is a world cheaper.
It's discriminating on the wealth of the worker, not his capability to get the job done (if it doesn't have to be done in a FCP environment-team). In Latvia Adobe Premiere is more popular (very few people have macs), but I still like Vegas better. |
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I could go on, but need I say more? Jon |
Yup that's just the way it is. Learn FCP, when you get a chance pickup Avid. I still love Vegas, but FCP and Avid are the standards.
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Nah, I agree with you - the workflow of the company comes first - but it's still discrimination based on wealth, not illegal, but it is, especially in such 3rd worldish countries, where cost of Apple computers and software is out of reach of ordinary citizens or students. Partly the reason why I think Adobe Premiere is more popular here - don't have to own a mac.
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Yep, I think I'm going to have to learn FCP then.
I have dual processor G4, do you think it's powerful enough to run the lastest edition of FCP and edit HDV with it? Thanks Larry |
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as a veteran of vegas since version 3, I think vegas was once a great tool, but, anymore it just plain sucks. The editting engine was designed to shine with DV. It's been patched and jury rigged for HD/HDV until it is a PITRA to use. Crashes and freezes are random and irritating. The most critical part, the preview window and scopes are unreliable and wrong. There's the fiasco their marketing gurus so nebulously call 32 bit float. No, Vegas is just a toy. Worst of all, Sony's customer support is a sham. There isn't any. IN typical Sony fashion, they woo you until you buy their product, then you're forgotten. I REALLY dislike anything Sony. And the Sony faithful are so typically co-dependent. Go figure.
You want REAL pro software, go with FCP or Avid. Sony and Adobe are the twin sisters. Use me and abuse me....no thanx. There's a reason FCP is making BIG inroads into serial television post production. And it ain't because Sony is so loved. Vegas is like a cheap suit, it feels good when you try it, but it wears out very, very fast. |
I'm sorry to hear that you're having issues with Vegas. I haven't noticed that Vegas is any less stable than it has always been. I have Vegas, Avid MC and Premiere CS4 and when left to my own devices, I go straight for Vegas. It never crashes and I've used it to produce broadcast HD stuff seen regularly by millions.
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I'm not doing any excuses, just my opinion. I'm not applying for video editing work anywhere, and neither do I plan to do it, my profession is other, I'm a lawyer.
In Latvia there is a media program in Latvian Academy of Culture (the only film program in country) and they have some macs with FCP, but the tuition fees are even higher than to buy a mac - about USD 5000 a year - thus the same argument holds. Most people in the field in this country have self taught video editing using pirated Adobe and Windows software on cheap, locally assembled pc's. |
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