Vista 64 or Xp64 for Vegas 8? at DVinfo.net

Ken Steadman · December 6th, 2008, 02:35 PM

My old editing computer mobo fried last night and I'm ready to start from scratch with a new editing rig. I know I want to go with 64 bit but not sure which one is better suited.

Who is using 64 bit with Vegas? What have been your experiences?

FYI I am editing 1080 AVCHD and would really like a boost in performance.

Thanks in advance!

James Harring · December 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM

Sony only offers tech support on Vista 64.
However, I am working on WinXP-64 with Vegas 8.1 without issues, but so far my stuff has not been that challenging so I would not be swayed to XP64 by my statement.

In both cases, be sure whatever plug-ins or ancillary software/hardware you expect to use are 64bit compliant too. I have a scanner and printer that won't "do" 64-bit anything. Manufacturer does not support it.

It may also be a good idea to partition your hard drive and dual boot: put a Win32 on one partition and then a 64 bit install on the other partition. Allows you to "ease" into this.

PS Look at the core i7 - it's "tuned" for Vegas style apps.

Edward Troxel · December 6th, 2008, 06:53 PM

If you're going to go with a 64-bit OS, go with Vista. You'll more likely see new drivers being released for Vista 64 than for XP-64 since Vista 64 is the current/active platform. Are you planning on running 8.1 or one of the 32-bit varieties?

Jeff Harper · December 7th, 2008, 01:12 AM

Lots of folks around here are running Vista 64 bit.

Should work well with a new rig.

Ken Steadman · December 8th, 2008, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Troxel

If you're going to go with a 64-bit OS, go with Vista. You'll more likely see new drivers being released for Vista 64 than for XP-64 since Vista 64 is the current/active platform. Are you planning on running 8.1 or one of the 32-bit varieties?

Thanks Ed I hadn't thought about that. I think that now I'm going to take James' advice a run a dual boot XP pro and Vista64 system, so i guess both 8.1 and 8.0.

Christian de Godzinsky · December 8th, 2008, 08:04 AM

Hi,

If you ever consider burning Bluray from within Vegas or DVDA, then there is no option - go with Vista 64 bit.

XP 64 bit has NO native support for Blueray writing (UDF2.5 missing). This was the reason why I HAD to scrap XP64 (that I liked very much) and switch to Vista 64 bit, that I don't love....

Christian

Paul Inglis · December 8th, 2008, 10:11 AM

I have just spent the last few months sorting out my editing suite and have written a couple of posts about 64-bit Vista and HD editing!

The links are;
Paul Inglis Media Web Journal Blog Archive High Definition Post Production About the Suite
Paul Inglis Media Web Journal Blog Archive 64-Bit Software Compatible Software

Hope it helps!

Jeff Harper · December 8th, 2008, 11:12 AM

If you plan to install Vegas 8.1 (64 bit) on Vista 64 bit, keep in mind there are issues for some and all is not perfect for everyone that attempts to use it.

First, there is, as of yet, only one plug in (that I know of) that works with it, Excalibur.

Also, I am plagued with a black frames issue with 8.1 that has followed me from my old PC to the new one....still have no fix for it.

There have been a few around that have found 8.1 unusable, and I'm one of them.

The worst case scenario is you would have to run Vegas 8.0c on your Vista 64 configuration, but you are almost certain to have few if any issues if that turns out to be the case.

Many have agreed Vegas 8.1 is not yet ready for prime time, though others are having no issue with it.

I currently am rendering 90 minute projects in Vegas 8.0c (with light color correction, etc only) in 30-45 minutes. So the minor speed increase in rendering is insignificant with Vegas 8.1 and of no great loss to me though it would be nice if it worked. I would love to be able to use it.

Performance increase with an i7 processor is much more significant than using 8.1. I imagine a usable version of 8.1 couple with an i7 would be excellent!

Paul Inglis · December 8th, 2008, 11:21 AM

I know that Boris FX, Graffiti and RED work with 64-bit!

Jeff Harper · December 8th, 2008, 12:17 PM

That's great. I wish that Ultimate S and Magic Bullet did as well.

Edit: Vasst is working on Ultimate S compatability.

Alastair Brown · December 8th, 2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

That's great. I wish that Ultimate S and Magic Bullet did as well.

I', wishing even harder than you. My i7 with 64 bit Vista arrives on the 18th. There's always a fly in the ointment!!!!!!!

Paul Inglis · December 8th, 2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

That's great. I wish that Ultimate S and Magic Bullet did as well.

Me too! It will be shortly I'm sure!

Jeff Harper · December 8th, 2008, 01:17 PM

Regarding black frames, did a quick web search and I have finally found others with same issue, and with one user finds the issue is only with SD footage.

Black frames is issue affecting few users, but those that is does affect as of yet have no solution.

I find Vegas 32 bit works exceptionally well with Vista 64, so you can't really go wrong with it as long as your pc is up to it.

Ken Steadman · December 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM

Ouch, losing Magic bullet is going to hurt!

I was planing on building an i7 rig the processors are very reasonably priced

Mike Kujbida · December 8th, 2008, 01:58 PM

Not sure if it'll help or not but here's what Red Giant has to say.

We do not currently certify support for 64-bit Windows, but we do support 32-bit Windows installations.

The following instructions are for users with 32-bit or 64-bit Windows Vista (not 64-bit Windows XP) systems. These instructions may help you get some or all of our products working on your system.

Magic Bullet Looks: Windows Vista 32-bit & 64-bit installation help.

December 6th, 2008, 02:35 PM	#1
Ken Steadman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: DC Suburbs Posts: 86	Vista 64 or Xp64 for Vegas 8? My old editing computer mobo fried last night and I'm ready to start from scratch with a new editing rig. I know I want to go with 64 bit but not sure which one is better suited. Who is using 64 bit with Vegas? What have been your experiences? FYI I am editing 1080 AVCHD and would really like a boost in performance. Thanks in advance!

December 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#2
James Harring Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 210	My 2-bits on 64bit Sony only offers tech support on Vista 64. However, I am working on WinXP-64 with Vegas 8.1 without issues, but so far my stuff has not been that challenging so I would not be swayed to XP64 by my statement. In both cases, be sure whatever plug-ins or ancillary software/hardware you expect to use are 64bit compliant too. I have a scanner and printer that won't "do" 64-bit anything. Manufacturer does not support it. It may also be a good idea to partition your hard drive and dual boot: put a Win32 on one partition and then a 64 bit install on the other partition. Allows you to "ease" into this. PS Look at the core i7 - it's "tuned" for Vegas style apps.

December 6th, 2008, 06:53 PM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you're going to go with a 64-bit OS, go with Vista. You'll more likely see new drivers being released for Vista 64 than for XP-64 since Vista 64 is the current/active platform. Are you planning on running 8.1 or one of the 32-bit varieties? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 8th, 2008, 08:04 AM	#6
Christian de Godzinsky Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Helsinki/Finland Posts: 131	Hi, If you ever consider burning Bluray from within Vegas or DVDA, then there is no option - go with Vista 64 bit. XP 64 bit has NO native support for Blueray writing (UDF2.5 missing). This was the reason why I HAD to scrap XP64 (that I liked very much) and switch to Vista 64 bit, that I don't love.... Christian __________________ The future does not exist - we must invent it !

December 8th, 2008, 11:12 AM	#8
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	If you plan to install Vegas 8.1 (64 bit) on Vista 64 bit, keep in mind there are issues for some and all is not perfect for everyone that attempts to use it. First, there is, as of yet, only one plug in (that I know of) that works with it, Excalibur. Also, I am plagued with a black frames issue with 8.1 that has followed me from my old PC to the new one....still have no fix for it. There have been a few around that have found 8.1 unusable, and I'm one of them. The worst case scenario is you would have to run Vegas 8.0c on your Vista 64 configuration, but you are almost certain to have few if any issues if that turns out to be the case. Many have agreed Vegas 8.1 is not yet ready for prime time, though others are having no issue with it. I currently am rendering 90 minute projects in Vegas 8.0c (with light color correction, etc only) in 30-45 minutes. So the minor speed increase in rendering is insignificant with Vegas 8.1 and of no great loss to me though it would be nice if it worked. I would love to be able to use it. Performance increase with an i7 processor is much more significant than using 8.1. I imagine a usable version of 8.1 couple with an i7 would be excellent! Last edited by Jeff Harper; December 8th, 2008 at 12:16 PM.

December 7th, 2008, 01:12 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Lots of folks around here are running Vista 64 bit. Should work well with a new rig.

December 8th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#7
Paul Inglis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: British Isles Posts: 415	I have just spent the last few months sorting out my editing suite and have written a couple of posts about 64-bit Vista and HD editing! The links are; Paul Inglis Media Web Journal Blog Archive High Definition Post Production About the Suite Paul Inglis Media Web Journal Blog Archive 64-Bit Software Compatible Software Hope it helps!

December 8th, 2008, 11:21 AM	#9
Paul Inglis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: British Isles Posts: 415	I know that Boris FX, Graffiti and RED work with 64-bit!

December 8th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#10
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	That's great. I wish that Ultimate S and Magic Bullet did as well. Edit: Vasst is working on Ultimate S compatability. Last edited by Jeff Harper; December 8th, 2008 at 01:02 PM.

December 8th, 2008, 01:17 PM	#13
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Regarding black frames, did a quick web search and I have finally found others with same issue, and with one user finds the issue is only with SD footage. Black frames is issue affecting few users, but those that is does affect as of yet have no solution. I find Vegas 32 bit works exceptionally well with Vista 64, so you can't really go wrong with it as long as your pc is up to it.

December 8th, 2008, 01:49 PM	#14
Ken Steadman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: DC Suburbs Posts: 86	Ouch, losing Magic bullet is going to hurt! I was planing on building an i7 rig the processors are very reasonably priced

December 8th, 2008, 01:58 PM	#15
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Not sure if it'll help or not but here's what Red Giant has to say. We do not currently certify support for 64-bit Windows, but we do support 32-bit Windows installations. The following instructions are for users with 32-bit or 64-bit Windows Vista (not 64-bit Windows XP) systems. These instructions may help you get some or all of our products working on your system. Magic Bullet Looks: Windows Vista 32-bit & 64-bit installation help.