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Old December 22nd, 2008, 04:01 PM   #1
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Shooting HD & downconversion

Hallo everybody out there!Ths is my first post in this amazing foum :)
I own a hdrz1 and i edit with Sony Vegas pro8.
First question: is it a good workflow to shoot always in HDV than downconvert in SD when requested?
When i downconvert a file HD 16:9 into sd 4:3,will the image get distortion?Will i get a good 4:3 image?
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 04:46 PM   #2
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Yes, if you go from HDV 16:9 to 4:3 it will be very distorted.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 05:20 PM   #3
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ouch!So the best workflow that you suggest?Downconvert in 16:9 SD?
And what about if this work will be watched on a 4:3 tv screen?
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 11:38 PM   #4
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There are three ways to have the Z1 downconvert to SD: 16x9 letterboxed into a 4x3 image, in other words, with letterboxing, black bars at the top and bottom. Then there is cropping the center 4x3 section out of a 16x9 image, so it cuts off both sides of the 16x9 image but displays full-screen 4x3. Last, there is 16x9 anamorphic which is where it compresses the entire 16x9 image into a 4x3 screen and the playback device expands it back out to 16x9. This is how wide-screen DVDs work.
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Old December 23rd, 2008, 12:37 AM   #5
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I have had great success with Vegas and the Z1 and shooting HD will produce good looking DVD's.
Rendering to MPEG-2 is very easy.
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Old December 23rd, 2008, 06:28 AM   #6
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John wich is the best way?I own an hdv deck 2....
_What's the best way to have less lost of quality?
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Old December 25th, 2008, 06:14 PM   #7
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Is it better downconvert through the deck(or the z1) or is it better to capture the files in vegas as HDV files,then edit in timeline then render to widescreen 16:9 SD?
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Old December 26th, 2008, 01:31 AM   #8
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If you capture HD images you can get better stills from the footage, have more flexibility.

Otherwise it doesn't matter.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #9
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So this is what i'm doing:
connect the camcorder-capture hdv files in hdv project-batch capture using cineform-edit then render to widescreen 16:9 right.

Jeff is it correct?

The problem now appears cause i have to add 4:3 shots in Dv format;somebody told me about plugins or script;what's all about?

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p.s:sorry for my english
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Old December 26th, 2008, 05:20 AM   #10
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What you are doing sounds correct.

I don't know about adding 4:3 footage, haven't mixed the two myself. sorry!
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Old December 26th, 2008, 05:34 AM   #11
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I've added 4:3 footage to my 16:9 footage/timeline in vegas, i just cropped the 4:3 into 16:9.
There's a 16:9 preset in the pan & crop list.
Crop to 16:9 then move the crop box up or down to suit, ie correct headroom etc.

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Old December 26th, 2008, 06:08 AM   #12
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Hey Paul and Jeff,thx!
Paul i know that here's a preset to crop in 16:9 but cause of letterboxing(having those lines up and down),i should zoom in the clip despite lost of quality?Or ami wrong?

sorry for my barbarian english...
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Old December 26th, 2008, 08:06 AM   #13
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Hey Paul and Jeff,thx!
Paul i know that here's a preset to crop in 16:9 but cause of letterboxing(having those lines up and down),i should zoom in the clip despite lost of quality?Or ami wrong?

sorry for my barbarian english...

Lines up and down ? Do you mean the black bars at top and bottom ?
If you select the 16:9 preset when you crop the 4:3 then you won't have any bars top and bottom, you'll get a full screen 16:9.

Have a look at Paul Kellett Channel on Vimeo

this was a wedding i shot with my EX1 (16:9) and another camera which was the 4:3, i cropped the 4:3 into 16:9.
A slight loss in resolution when doing the crop but better than flicking to and from 16;9 and 4:3 on the finished dvd.

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Old December 28th, 2008, 07:30 PM   #14
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Plugins to convert SD to HD...have u ever tryed em?

Hi i was guessing if u guys have evertryed thos plugins that are able to convert SD footage in HD footage..
thx a lot
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