edge cropping at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

What Happens in Vegas...
...stays in Vegas! This PC-based editing app is a safe bet with these tips.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 10th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 513
edge cropping

whats the best way to keep my ex3 files as high quality as possible, but mix them with SD files? the end result has to be 4x3, and the SD files are going to be from a beta SX, so I am hoping to keep the ex3 files in HD and just edge crop the video. I tried a few things, like takeing a 4x3 timeline, and throwing a shot from the ex3 on there, and changing the properties of the media to ntsc dv (.9091). is that about the best I can do?
Ian Planchon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 05:48 AM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 249
Ian,

I hope I am understanding you. Have you used the pan and crop button for each event you want changed to 4:3? Try clicking the pan/crop button on the event, then select 4:3 aspect, then move the box where you want it to go. Hope this helps ya.
Michael Hutson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 09:26 AM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 513
I dont think thats what I am looking for,but thanks.

basically, I have my HD video (16x9), shot on the ex3, then I need to mix it with Beta SX video (4x3) and edit short 2-3 minute pieces with all the video. the end result needs to be 4x3 SD. whats the best way to make the HD video match the aspect ratio of the SX video, WITHOUT down converting the HD video to DV (until its rendered out of course).
Ian Planchon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 10:11 AM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 249
Ian,
I just tested it. And it seemed to work. This is what I did....please try it.

1. Created new project, in the HDV 1080-60i (1440x1080, 29.970 fps) project properties or whatever your camera format is.
2. Placed my HD footage (16:9)on the timeline.
3. Placed my SD footage (4:3) on the timeline.
4. On HD footage, selected pan crop, pulled down the "preset menu" and selected 4:3 Standard TV aspect ratio. (Now, if viewed in the preview window the screen is widescreen BUT both pieces are "letter-boxed" in 4:3)
5. On the preview window, click on project property button.(or hit alt-enter). Change project properties to NTSC DV (720x480, 29.970 fps). (Now if viewed in preview window, all footage is 4:3.)
6. Render footage in an SD format.

Hope this helps.
Michael Hutson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 10:42 AM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 513
ooohhhhh, I see what your saying. great, I will give that a shot. thanks!
Ian Planchon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 10:51 AM   #6
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 513
yup, that was the way to do it. thanks again!
Ian Planchon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 249
I rendered the footage as Main Concept mpeg2.....looked fine in vegas. But when I opened the rendered file to review in DVDA the original hd footage, it didn't look as smooth as it did in vegas. Some things make you go, "hmmmmmmmmm." Hope it works out for you, Ian. Please post your results....I'm curious.(not the footage....just if it worked out for ya)
Michael Hutson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 12:14 PM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 513
its not going to be till march that the editing takes place, but I will let you know what happens.
Ian Planchon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 11th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #9
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 3,004
Similar issue??

Good afternoon.


Is this problem of the same type of issue.

I have standad DV off my xl2/

I want to shoot hd on my new wlh1 and combine.

Can I crop the hd and then render it all into standard DV??

By reducing the data by cropping will it keep a better image than if I rendered tghe entire HD to dv??


What are the procedures to do that if you can??

I want to keep the wide screen, what aspect ratio does one use, 720x480?


thanks
__________________
DATS ALL FOLKS
Dale W. Guthormsen
Dale Guthormsen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12th, 2009, 07:09 PM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Elgin, IL
Posts: 249
For Dale

Dale,

What I do is bring the files in hd format, set the project properties to match the footage, (there is an icon when you open project properties, far right on Template line, that looks like a folder...click on it, then click a one of the files that you are using and it will match the properties of the file)

I edit in hd then render in mpeg2 video stream, dvd architech NTSC WIDESCREEN video stream.

It plays great in a high def lcd tv, and also on my standard def tv(letterboxed).

To mix....If you want to stay widescreen, open the pan crop on the 4:3 sd footage and crop it to 16:9. and leave hd footage in 16:9. If your camera can down convert from hd 16:9 to sd 16:9, you may want to do that......it may make the footage look more "even." BUT the HD footage won't look HD any more.

I'm sure there is some folks with more experience than me and if I have mis-spoken, please correct me. I learn so much from the experts here.

Hope this helps.
Michael
Michael Hutson is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:05 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network