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Old March 29th, 2009, 08:47 AM   #1
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Vegas users, anyone use Nero 8 to capture m2t?

I stongly dislike capturing HD in Vegas for several reasons, not the least is the fact that audio preview cannot be disabled.

I have Nero 8 and wondered if it would be a good capture utility for HDV. I would avoid installing it if it is no better than Vegas for this purpose. Nero creates driver conflicts, etc. and is a general nuisance.

Anyone use Nero 8 for capturing HDV?
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Old March 29th, 2009, 09:55 AM   #2
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I went ahead and installed Nero, and it is very interesting, and to me, confusing.

Nero captures the HD video from my Fx1000 as mpeg2 files, not m2t. but in 1080i. It plays back in windows media player beautifully, looks like high def, and is very manageable on the Vegas timeline.

I have extremely limited understanding of hi-def.

Are these mpeg 2 files truly high-def? What is going on?

I have many hours to capture and dont want to proceed further until I know what is what, so any advice is appreciated.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 10:38 AM   #3
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What is strange is these mpeg 2 files look identical to m2t files when played back in media players, and on the vegas timeline also.

It seems too good to be true, a more manageable HD file that has the original quality.

I have alway understood that mpeg 2 files are a delivery format, not editing.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 10:53 AM   #4
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Jeff, I grabbed the following from another DV Info forum. Hope it helps.

M2T is a transport stream used mostly in broadcast (and in HDV cameras) while MPEG is a program stream.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #5
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Thank you Mike, so I guess Nero captures files to be ready for putting on DVD directly, is that it? Hmmmm.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #6
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Jeff, I'm not a Nero user so your guess is as good as mine :-)

For alternate capture apps, give HDV Split and CapDVHS (French site but there's an English download link) a try.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 02:26 PM   #7
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Thank you Mike, so I guess Nero captures files to be ready for putting on DVD directly, is that it? Hmmmm.
m2t is MPEG -2 TS or MPEG-2 transport stream. Nero is just renaming the HDV native file. IF you look at the file properties you will see that they are the same whether Vegas or Nero captures the file. Nero will encode to SD on capture if you ask it to do so though( custom rather than native button), but I don't think that is what you want it for.
m2ts is another form indicating a timecode addition for each packet to ensure that packets get back in the correct order if they are stored on HDD or Flash memory and this is the file extension for AVCHD though it is MPEG4 rather than MPEG2.
Asking any of these capture programs to capture a native file will give you the same file. Some give the option of scene detection to split files on date and time( start stop changes) but if they are native they will be the same.

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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #8
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Thanks everyone. Mike, HDV split is working fine, thank you. It had been suggested before but I forgot about it. Great to be able to turn preview on and off.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 04:45 PM   #9
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Ron, you are correct, the files are essentially the same. I was wrong, the mpg versions are no different than the m2t files...they were just small samples and at the time of download seemed quicker.
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