Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Glen Elliott · May 24th, 2004, 10:44 AM

Edward you seem to be pretty well cued into the "known-problems". There was an issue I brought up that you explained was a known problem as well. Would you mind compiling a small list of the known problems? That people can check the list before feverishly posting here for answers...like Peter and I both did.

Peter Moore · May 24th, 2004, 10:50 AM

The burner is out, the media is not. As for an NLE that supports it, you don't need one. All you need is an authoring tool that will let you make projects bigger than 4.7 GB, and the bundled Nero software that does burn to DL disks.

I have no idea how the layer break is handled though. Hopefully media will be out soon so we can find out.

Emre Safak · May 24th, 2004, 11:20 AM

It is so easy with the Color Corrector. Just use Choose Complementary Color (the left dropper) to render a target neutral.

Jay Mitchell · May 24th, 2004, 11:41 AM

Just a reminder that the Sony Media Software Showcase will be happening today in Southern California. Come meet Douglas Spotted Eagle and Gary Kleiner at this free event.

Date: Monday - May 24th, 2004

Times: 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. and 6:30 to 9:30 p.m.

Where: Radisson Hotel
6161 Centinela Ave.
Culver City, CA 90230

Phone: 310-649-1776

Jay Mitchell
SCVUG Host

Lars Siden · May 24th, 2004, 01:50 PM

Hi Guys,

I do work as a professional software developer - but I must say that I feel rather stupid when it comes down to writing scripts!

I'm use to working in C#/C/C++ - in the longest I've avoided scripts ( except silly ones for webpages )

Last night I was looking through the example scripts and stuff for Vegas and now I feel like doing some on my own... some questions though:

1. How do I debug them? Or can't I? I can't compile the scripts outside Vegas - casue then "Vegas" is unknown

2. No luck attaching the CLR-debugger ( dbgclr )

3. Which editor do you use? I thought Visual Studio 2003 should be fine - but it gives very ample support for writing JScripts.

4. Is it possible to instantiate a "new Vegas"-object? Object browser tells me that it is a public class...but when I try I get an error telling me it is private... shoule be fun to make c# extensions for Vegas ... I've done some extensions for photoshop - where you just new the Photoshop.applicationobject and of you go!

Ok, lots of thechnical talk here - hope to get some response!

TIA!

// Lazze

Brad Higerd · May 24th, 2004, 03:14 PM

Thanks Edward and Imran. It was well worth battling the automated parking device in downtown Orlando for the 30 minutes prior to my arrival. I do appreciate the help that many would require payment to provide.

Brad

Glen Elliott · May 24th, 2004, 04:49 PM

Anyone take any photos?

Dylan Couper · May 24th, 2004, 07:33 PM

Ah!
Thanks. Any suggestions for sites with free fonts to download?

Scott Brickert · May 24th, 2004, 08:32 PM

I just bought Smartsound's Sonicfire 3 at NAB (it 's on a UPS truck somewhere right now...).

I looked closely at Acid, and decided to get a copy of 3.0. The learning curve looked much steeper, plus I never really solved the question of sorting out loops to find the ones I'd need to make any given soundtrack. But Acid looks like a deeper tool that would allow more creativity and control.

I'm planning on using Sonicfire to 'score' the memorial and possibly training/corporate videos coming up. It appears to be the quickest way to get a decent soundtrack created on a PC. Then, I can always tweak things in Vegas 5.0, or Acid 3.0, to make sure every soundtrack is unique.

It would be cool if Sony decided to create a competitor to FCP's Soundtrack that would fit with Vegas.

Scott

Love Mov · May 24th, 2004, 08:39 PM

I mean if I save as to local shared address, and try access the file from a remote location, it doesn't work. So it just doe not support it I guess.

Imran Zaidi · May 24th, 2004, 09:13 PM

No, sorry, nobody had a camera...

It really happened, we swear!

Edward Troxel · May 24th, 2004, 10:10 PM

Well, it's not all as easy as it seems. For "debugging", I run the program and, if it won't "compile", it will tell me the line it dies on. If it CAN, then it will attempt to run and either given me an error specifying a line of code or a general failure error with no error at which time you have to add some manual debugging code to find the exact error location.

Recently I've started using the SharpDevelop editor but Excalibur, Neon, and Tsunami were all written in Notepad.

If you have not done so, you need to check out the pages at:
http://www.ayizwe.net/VegasScripts/

Edward Troxel · May 24th, 2004, 10:12 PM

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to just sit down and make a list. However, I CAN remember if it's something I've read about several times.

Andy Shrimpton · May 24th, 2004, 11:08 PM

Hi Guys!

After a mega load down session (over 16hrs for all the stuff!) i got it all happening without any dramas.

Harry: What transition shocks were you alluding too? I haven't had much time to do much, but it seems very much like 4.0 for me, although having said that I am not doing too much that involves using any of the heavy artillery in the program.

The celeron upgrade? yeah, just waiting for the price to fall a bit, then I'm there! :)

Seems odd you can't save the pan / crop settings. Hope they fix that soon.

Biggest buzz has been DVDA 2. Got it up and sussed very quickly. No frills but a great workflow.

Thanks for the replies!

Andy

Rob Lohman · May 25th, 2004, 02:13 AM

If Best does that I suggest you stay at Good. The difference is
minimal between the two (according to people in the know). I
can't remember hearing about this problem before. It might be
a new bug you have discovered.

Are you running 5.0A? If not, upgrade to that version immediately
(download off the website). The A release contains many bug
fixes.

May 24th, 2004, 11:41 AM	#1759
Jay Mitchell Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 40	Sony Media Software Showcase - Today! Just a reminder that the Sony Media Software Showcase will be happening today in Southern California. Come meet Douglas Spotted Eagle and Gary Kleiner at this free event. Date: Monday - May 24th, 2004 Times: 2:30 to 5:30 p.m. and 6:30 to 9:30 p.m. Where: Radisson Hotel 6161 Centinela Ave. Culver City, CA 90230 Phone: 310-649-1776 Jay Mitchell SCVUG Host

May 24th, 2004, 01:50 PM	#1760
Lars Siden Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, Stockholm Posts: 469	Scripting in vegas 5 ( Edward... :-) Hi Guys, I do work as a professional software developer - but I must say that I feel rather stupid when it comes down to writing scripts! I'm use to working in C#/C/C++ - in the longest I've avoided scripts ( except silly ones for webpages ) Last night I was looking through the example scripts and stuff for Vegas and now I feel like doing some on my own... some questions though: 1. How do I debug them? Or can't I? I can't compile the scripts outside Vegas - casue then "Vegas" is unknown 2. No luck attaching the CLR-debugger ( dbgclr ) 3. Which editor do you use? I thought Visual Studio 2003 should be fine - but it gives very ample support for writing JScripts. 4. Is it possible to instantiate a "new Vegas"-object? Object browser tells me that it is a public class...but when I try I get an error telling me it is private... shoule be fun to make c# extensions for Vegas ... I've done some extensions for photoshop - where you just new the Photoshop.applicationobject and of you go! Ok, lots of thechnical talk here - hope to get some response! TIA! // Lazze

May 24th, 2004, 07:33 PM	#1763
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Ah! Thanks. Any suggestions for sites with free fonts to download? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 24th, 2004, 11:08 PM	#1769
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Hi Guys! After a mega load down session (over 16hrs for all the stuff!) i got it all happening without any dramas. Harry: What transition shocks were you alluding too? I haven't had much time to do much, but it seems very much like 4.0 for me, although having said that I am not doing too much that involves using any of the heavy artillery in the program. The celeron upgrade? yeah, just waiting for the price to fall a bit, then I'm there! :) Seems odd you can't save the pan / crop settings. Hope they fix that soon. Biggest buzz has been DVDA 2. Got it up and sussed very quickly. No frills but a great workflow. Thanks for the replies! Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

May 25th, 2004, 02:13 AM	#1770
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	If Best does that I suggest you stay at Good. The difference is minimal between the two (according to people in the know). I can't remember hearing about this problem before. It might be a new bug you have discovered. Are you running 5.0A? If not, upgrade to that version immediately (download off the website). The A release contains many bug fixes. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 24th, 2004, 10:44 AM	#1756
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Edward you seem to be pretty well cued into the "known-problems". There was an issue I brought up that you explained was a known problem as well. Would you mind compiling a small list of the known problems? That people can check the list before feverishly posting here for answers...like Peter and I both did.

May 24th, 2004, 10:50 AM	#1757
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	The burner is out, the media is not. As for an NLE that supports it, you don't need one. All you need is an authoring tool that will let you make projects bigger than 4.7 GB, and the bundled Nero software that does burn to DL disks. I have no idea how the layer break is handled though. Hopefully media will be out soon so we can find out.

May 24th, 2004, 11:20 AM	#1758
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	It is so easy with the Color Corrector. Just use Choose Complementary Color (the left dropper) to render a target neutral.

May 24th, 2004, 03:14 PM	#1761
Brad Higerd Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 186	Thanks Edward and Imran. It was well worth battling the automated parking device in downtown Orlando for the 30 minutes prior to my arrival. I do appreciate the help that many would require payment to provide. Brad

May 24th, 2004, 04:49 PM	#1762
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Anyone take any photos?

May 24th, 2004, 08:32 PM	#1764
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	I just bought Smartsound's Sonicfire 3 at NAB (it 's on a UPS truck somewhere right now...). I looked closely at Acid, and decided to get a copy of 3.0. The learning curve looked much steeper, plus I never really solved the question of sorting out loops to find the ones I'd need to make any given soundtrack. But Acid looks like a deeper tool that would allow more creativity and control. I'm planning on using Sonicfire to 'score' the memorial and possibly training/corporate videos coming up. It appears to be the quickest way to get a decent soundtrack created on a PC. Then, I can always tweak things in Vegas 5.0, or Acid 3.0, to make sure every soundtrack is unique. It would be cool if Sony decided to create a competitor to FCP's Soundtrack that would fit with Vegas. Scott

May 24th, 2004, 08:39 PM	#1765
Love Mov Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 97	I mean if I save as to local shared address, and try access the file from a remote location, it doesn't work. So it just doe not support it I guess.

May 24th, 2004, 09:13 PM	#1766
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	No, sorry, nobody had a camera... It really happened, we swear!

May 24th, 2004, 10:10 PM	#1767
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Well, it's not all as easy as it seems. For "debugging", I run the program and, if it won't "compile", it will tell me the line it dies on. If it CAN, then it will attempt to run and either given me an error specifying a line of code or a general failure error with no error at which time you have to add some manual debugging code to find the exact error location. Recently I've started using the SharpDevelop editor but Excalibur, Neon, and Tsunami were all written in Notepad. If you have not done so, you need to check out the pages at: http://www.ayizwe.net/VegasScripts/

May 24th, 2004, 10:12 PM	#1768
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to just sit down and make a list. However, I CAN remember if it's something I've read about several times.