Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Bryan Roberts · June 29th, 2004, 10:15 AM

Hey all, well I have a friend who wants his reel I cut together for him in Vegas 4 on his computer so that when he needs copies, he can burn some on iDVD (he's from South Africa so me burning copies for him doesn't work). I originally figured mpeg-2 made the most sense and would save him the render time only to discover that iDVD and his mac don't support mpeg-2 encoded files (odd). When I go to Quick Time, I can't get a reasonable file size (6.3 gigs for a 4 minute piece) or as soon as I touch compression, the file size and quality plummet. Any suggestions?

Adi Head · June 29th, 2004, 10:30 AM

ok. so if i understand what you're saying, i should set the audio data rate to maximum (if i am interested in acheving maximum audio quality). and the only thing i have to worry about when doing so is not to exceed the DVD media available memory.

correct?

Alex Milne · June 29th, 2004, 01:39 PM

Can somone tell me if this is completely insane?...this person seems to be selling Vegas 5.0 and a number of plugins for under $100. When I ran on search on ebay for Vegas 5.0 this guy
(ebay# 3685837779) was at the bottom of a pile of other Vegas 5.0+plugins for the same price (#'s 3684897847 others) ...looked like some kind of wholsale thing. The only thing was, this seller and the other seller had the exact same page, exact same words, except the other seller had some bad feedback about bootleg and copied software. So I'm thinking maybe its the same guy, who just changed his identity to get rid of the bad feedback. He claims to be "reselling".
#3684897847

Something smells fishy...but at this price...should I care?

thanks
-alex

Imran Zaidi · June 29th, 2004, 01:47 PM

You should always care! Unless it is legal software, you should never pay someone for it. You are asking them to continue stealing and selling, after which others see how cheap it is and want to buy it too, after which others who sell it realize they can make money doing it, after which it spreads so rampantly that the software company cracks down and then raises the cost of their software for innocent bystanders who actually paid for the software to begin with.

It all starts with one person - you!

Paul Jason · June 29th, 2004, 01:52 PM

At the bottom of the auction it says this..

This software is FULL Version, NOT academic. It's not used neither registered, but not in Retail Box. I don't know if it can be registered. It's fully functional and working great without registering it. Sold As Is. I am just reselling it. These picture are for reference only. User Manual is included on CD for all programs that come in package.

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

Scott Balkum · June 29th, 2004, 02:08 PM

My guess is he is selling a copy of the 30 day trial.. All of his statements are true. It works great, for 30 days...

Stay away...

Alex Milne · June 29th, 2004, 02:09 PM

Alright, I was thinking that, but good to be sure. Thank you very much.
-alex

Barry Rivadue · June 29th, 2004, 02:35 PM

Okay, I resolved it; I phoned Sony and realized I was incorrect about the upgrade price--it was way less than I thought, and not greatly more than the original promotion--so I ordered it. Though it's still an added cost I wasn't looking for, at least now I'll have the Architecture program finally incorporated into my Vegas 5 program!

And Ulead owes me a few good lunches. :p

Rob Lohman · June 29th, 2004, 03:09 PM

Josh: I've moved your post to the Vegsa forum.

Keep in mind that Vegas is just using the fonts that you have
installed on your system.

Do those fonts work in other programs like Word or other
graphics applications?

Josh Bass · June 29th, 2004, 03:10 PM

I'll have to check. I thought I posted in the Vegas forum in the first place? My bad.

Rob Lohman · June 29th, 2004, 03:16 PM

Well it seems to think it needs to do that for some reason. I'm
assuming the logo's and trailer are already in MPEG? That does
not mean they are DVD compliant. DVD's use a strict subset of
MPEG2 and not every MPEG2 file fits that criteria.

Easy to test. Render some DVD MPEG2 with Vegas. Does it want
to recode that? No? Then the other MPEG is simply not compliant
enough.

What you can do is load those files up in to Vegas and render
out DVD compliant MPEG2 files. Then you can use those files
from that point forward without needing the originals. So you
only have to do it once.

One other reason I think this might be happening is because
dolby gives out there footage in NTSC? So if you are in PAL it
will definitely need to be converted to be used in a PAL project.

Mike Moncrief · June 29th, 2004, 03:35 PM

Hello,

If it is not boxed and cannot be registerd,then I would not buy it..
But it is possible to purchase a good copy of Vegas from Ebay if you pay attention to the details and ask all the right questions..I purchased my copy from there for a much reduced price than retail , and all worked out well.. Make sure it is boxed, not academic(unless you are a student), the seller has very high marks on his Ebay history, and that is is a registerable version of the software..

Mike

Rob Lohman · June 29th, 2004, 03:42 PM

No, that is incorrect. From the DVD FAQ:

Quote:

The bitrate is 64 kbps to 448 kbps, with 384 or 448 being the normal rate for 5.1 channels and 192 being the typical rate for stereo (with or without surround encoding).

Source: The DVD FAQ - Audio details of DVD-Video

So the minimum supported bitrate is 64 and the maximum is 448.
Personally I would stick with 192 or 384 because that seems to
be the most used out there.

Keep in mind that a lot of people cannot hear the difference or
have a good enough set to be able to hear the difference. Just
so you know.

Rob Lohman · June 29th, 2004, 04:07 PM

Sounds like an illegal copy with a "crack" or something. Since
it does run according to his claims. Smells bad!

Edward Troxel · June 29th, 2004, 04:30 PM

Vegas uses your default Windows fonts. However, not all fonts installed will work. True Type fonts will. Some others won't. You just need to experiment.

June 29th, 2004, 10:15 AM	#2101
Bryan Roberts Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 436	Output file setting for burning a DVD on Mac iDVD? Hey all, well I have a friend who wants his reel I cut together for him in Vegas 4 on his computer so that when he needs copies, he can burn some on iDVD (he's from South Africa so me burning copies for him doesn't work). I originally figured mpeg-2 made the most sense and would save him the render time only to discover that iDVD and his mac don't support mpeg-2 encoded files (odd). When I go to Quick Time, I can't get a reasonable file size (6.3 gigs for a 4 minute piece) or as soon as I touch compression, the file size and quality plummet. Any suggestions?

June 29th, 2004, 01:39 PM	#2103
Alex Milne Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Massachusetts Posts: 63	An Ebay scam? or steal? Vegas -$100 Can somone tell me if this is completely insane?...this person seems to be selling Vegas 5.0 and a number of plugins for under $100. When I ran on search on ebay for Vegas 5.0 this guy (ebay# 3685837779) was at the bottom of a pile of other Vegas 5.0+plugins for the same price (#'s 3684897847 others) ...looked like some kind of wholsale thing. The only thing was, this seller and the other seller had the exact same page, exact same words, except the other seller had some bad feedback about bootleg and copied software. So I'm thinking maybe its the same guy, who just changed his identity to get rid of the bad feedback. He claims to be "reselling". #3684897847 Something smells fishy...but at this price...should I care? thanks -alex

June 29th, 2004, 03:09 PM	#2109
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Josh: I've moved your post to the Vegsa forum. Keep in mind that Vegas is just using the fonts that you have installed on your system. Do those fonts work in other programs like Word or other graphics applications? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 29th, 2004, 03:10 PM	#2110
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	I'll have to check. I thought I posted in the Vegas forum in the first place? My bad. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 29th, 2004, 03:16 PM	#2111
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Well it seems to think it needs to do that for some reason. I'm assuming the logo's and trailer are already in MPEG? That does not mean they are DVD compliant. DVD's use a strict subset of MPEG2 and not every MPEG2 file fits that criteria. Easy to test. Render some DVD MPEG2 with Vegas. Does it want to recode that? No? Then the other MPEG is simply not compliant enough. What you can do is load those files up in to Vegas and render out DVD compliant MPEG2 files. Then you can use those files from that point forward without needing the originals. So you only have to do it once. One other reason I think this might be happening is because dolby gives out there footage in NTSC? So if you are in PAL it will definitely need to be converted to be used in a PAL project. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 29th, 2004, 10:30 AM	#2102
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	ok. so if i understand what you're saying, i should set the audio data rate to maximum (if i am interested in acheving maximum audio quality). and the only thing i have to worry about when doing so is not to exceed the DVD media available memory. correct?

June 29th, 2004, 01:47 PM	#2104
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	You should always care! Unless it is legal software, you should never pay someone for it. You are asking them to continue stealing and selling, after which others see how cheap it is and want to buy it too, after which others who sell it realize they can make money doing it, after which it spreads so rampantly that the software company cracks down and then raises the cost of their software for innocent bystanders who actually paid for the software to begin with. It all starts with one person - you!

June 29th, 2004, 01:52 PM	#2105
Paul Jason Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 163	At the bottom of the auction it says this.. This software is FULL Version, NOT academic. It's not used neither registered, but not in Retail Box. I don't know if it can be registered. It's fully functional and working great without registering it. Sold As Is. I am just reselling it. These picture are for reference only. User Manual is included on CD for all programs that come in package. If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

June 29th, 2004, 02:08 PM	#2106
Scott Balkum Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 67	My guess is he is selling a copy of the 30 day trial.. All of his statements are true. It works great, for 30 days... Stay away...

June 29th, 2004, 02:09 PM	#2107
Alex Milne Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Massachusetts Posts: 63	Alright, I was thinking that, but good to be sure. Thank you very much. -alex

June 29th, 2004, 02:35 PM	#2108
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	Okay, I resolved it; I phoned Sony and realized I was incorrect about the upgrade price--it was way less than I thought, and not greatly more than the original promotion--so I ordered it. Though it's still an added cost I wasn't looking for, at least now I'll have the Architecture program finally incorporated into my Vegas 5 program! And Ulead owes me a few good lunches. :p

June 29th, 2004, 03:35 PM	#2112
Mike Moncrief Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: orlando florida Posts: 426	Hello, If it is not boxed and cannot be registerd,then I would not buy it.. But it is possible to purchase a good copy of Vegas from Ebay if you pay attention to the details and ask all the right questions..I purchased my copy from there for a much reduced price than retail , and all worked out well.. Make sure it is boxed, not academic(unless you are a student), the seller has very high marks on his Ebay history, and that is is a registerable version of the software.. Mike __________________ Mike Moncrief mikemoncrief@gmail.com www.themikemoncrief.com

June 29th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#2114
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Sounds like an illegal copy with a "crack" or something. Since it does run according to his claims. Smells bad! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 29th, 2004, 04:30 PM	#2115
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas uses your default Windows fonts. However, not all fonts installed will work. True Type fonts will. Some others won't. You just need to experiment.