Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · March 27th, 2004, 09:23 PM

Here's how I did it:

1) download the 20 meg standalone .NET Framework install file from Microsoft.

2) Burn it to a CD

3) Install on any machine I need.

Jamison Olivieri · March 28th, 2004, 12:23 AM

You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time.

Vince Debart · March 28th, 2004, 12:27 AM

use dudes are da best

Vince

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 03:56 AM

I've done this a lot of times without any problems indeed, do
check out Edwards newsletter!

If you need to resize I would rather go with 720x800 then 655x480.
In that case Vegas has more resolution to work with to do the
0.9 pixel aspect ratio conversion.

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 04:08 AM

Most VCD's I've seen are indeed "start directly", Law.

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 04:10 AM

There are basically a couple of ways. Most camera's support black
& white shooting as well (usually through color saturation). Then
you could do it in multiple ways in post.

Sometimes I like to not fully dial out the color, but almost. So it
feels black and white, but it's just borderline.

I suggest you play with the filters that are there in Vegas. It can
be done with the special B&W filter, color curvers, saturation
control etc.

Richard Gregg · March 28th, 2004, 04:29 AM

And here's a link to the download on Microsoft (23MB):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 04:36 AM

Isn't it on the Vegas CD?

Rob Lohman · March 28th, 2004, 05:19 AM

Are you perhaps running an older version of the .NET framework?
Make sure you have 1.1 to be safe. Which drive shouldn't matter
indeed. But you can always uninstall Vegas and then install it
to the C drive to see if that fixes it. Sometimes a weird thing like
that might be in the way even though it shouldn't.

Edward Troxel · March 28th, 2004, 06:32 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Isn't it on the Vegas CD? -->>>

Don't know - Never got a CD (electronic purchase)

I know Gary included it on the Excalibur and Neon CDs.

Edward Troxel · March 28th, 2004, 06:38 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jamison Olivieri : You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time. -->>>

You have to look at it a different way. I don't import them into a final project UNTIL they are ALL totally complete and ready to go. Yes, I build in sections. But if ANY section is not finalized, I don't build the final. Now I *may* rough a final up if I need a preview but the final is exactly that - the very LAST step.

Besides, it only takes a few seconds to built the final. Just double-click on each of the rendered files in order (I usually have 4). If any are wrong, go back and fix it and rebuild the final from scratch. Doesn't take that long to add 4 clips to the timeline.

Peter Jefferson · March 28th, 2004, 10:13 AM

brilliant tools, bythe sound of it. but apparently there are some crashes and stability issues..

I think ill wait..

Andy Shrimpton · March 28th, 2004, 06:10 PM

Thanks Guys.

I'll wait to see if it's on the Vegas CD before I try downloading it.

Still waiting for the postman.

Waiting, Waiting......

Brian Munt · March 28th, 2004, 08:48 PM

Tried closeing down everything I can thing of through msconfig and still does the same thing, so I will keep trying to eliminate more and more stuff until I get it clean or the thing won't boot.
I will even re render the whole thing just to make sure it is not in the render process.

Jon Omiatek · March 29th, 2004, 12:07 PM

The pictures are portrait stlye pictures and do not fill the entire video frame, for loss of better explaination, they have a black fill on both sides to fill the frame. When the transition is set it pulls the picture along with the surrounding black area. I only want the picture to transition without the black fill in area. I have tried to set a transparent background to the picture but it ignores it and still shows the black edges.

I am missing something? I can post a link to an example of what is happening if it would help.

Thanks,

Jon

March 28th, 2004, 03:56 AM	#1024
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've done this a lot of times without any problems indeed, do check out Edwards newsletter! If you need to resize I would rather go with 720x800 then 655x480. In that case Vegas has more resolution to work with to do the 0.9 pixel aspect ratio conversion. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 28th, 2004, 04:08 AM	#1025
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Most VCD's I've seen are indeed "start directly", Law. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 28th, 2004, 04:10 AM	#1026
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	There are basically a couple of ways. Most camera's support black & white shooting as well (usually through color saturation). Then you could do it in multiple ways in post. Sometimes I like to not fully dial out the color, but almost. So it feels black and white, but it's just borderline. I suggest you play with the filters that are there in Vegas. It can be done with the special B&W filter, color curvers, saturation control etc. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 28th, 2004, 04:36 AM	#1028
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Isn't it on the Vegas CD? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 28th, 2004, 05:19 AM	#1029
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Are you perhaps running an older version of the .NET framework? Make sure you have 1.1 to be safe. Which drive shouldn't matter indeed. But you can always uninstall Vegas and then install it to the C drive to see if that fixes it. Sometimes a weird thing like that might be in the way even though it shouldn't. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 27th, 2004, 09:23 PM	#1021
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Here's how I did it: 1) download the 20 meg standalone .NET Framework install file from Microsoft. 2) Burn it to a CD 3) Install on any machine I need.

March 28th, 2004, 12:23 AM	#1022
Jamison Olivieri Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: CA Posts: 50	You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time.

March 28th, 2004, 12:27 AM	#1023
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	use dudes are da best Vince

March 28th, 2004, 04:29 AM	#1027
Richard Gregg Tourist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Posts: 2	And here's a link to the download on Microsoft (23MB): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

March 28th, 2004, 06:32 AM	#1030
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Isn't it on the Vegas CD? -->>> Don't know - Never got a CD (electronic purchase) I know Gary included it on the Excalibur and Neon CDs.

March 28th, 2004, 06:38 AM	#1031
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Jamison Olivieri : You all have great points but there is one problem with what your saying. If you had a segment you have edited, add titles, special keyfram animations, and you have rendered it as an avi and imported it to your main project if you ever wanted to go back and make changes you would not be able too. Thats a problem with rendering and importing it, yeah its great and all but when i am editing and working on a piece i work on it and change it in so many ways that rendering and importing would do me no good it would just cost me time. -->>> You have to look at it a different way. I don't import them into a final project UNTIL they are ALL totally complete and ready to go. Yes, I build in sections. But if ANY section is not finalized, I don't build the final. Now I may rough a final up if I need a preview but the final is exactly that - the very LAST step. Besides, it only takes a few seconds to built the final. Just double-click on each of the rendered files in order (I usually have 4). If any are wrong, go back and fix it and rebuild the final from scratch. Doesn't take that long to add 4 clips to the timeline.

March 28th, 2004, 10:13 AM	#1032
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	brilliant tools, bythe sound of it. but apparently there are some crashes and stability issues.. I think ill wait..

March 28th, 2004, 06:10 PM	#1033
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	Thanks Guys. I'll wait to see if it's on the Vegas CD before I try downloading it. Still waiting for the postman. Waiting, Waiting...... __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

March 28th, 2004, 08:48 PM	#1034
Brian Munt New Boot Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Prince George, B.C. Canada Posts: 10	Tried closeing down everything I can thing of through msconfig and still does the same thing, so I will keep trying to eliminate more and more stuff until I get it clean or the thing won't boot. I will even re render the whole thing just to make sure it is not in the render process.

March 29th, 2004, 12:07 PM	#1035
Jon Omiatek Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 755	Transitions with Vegas 4.0 problem The pictures are portrait stlye pictures and do not fill the entire video frame, for loss of better explaination, they have a black fill on both sides to fill the frame. When the transition is set it pulls the picture along with the surrounding black area. I only want the picture to transition without the black fill in area. I have tried to set a transparent background to the picture but it ignores it and still shows the black edges. I am missing something? I can post a link to an example of what is happening if it would help. Thanks, Jon