Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Dan Lahav · April 12th, 2004, 12:54 AM

I recently imported 24PA footage from my dvx100 (with on-cam 16:9 cropping) into vegas but cannot seem to render it as true anamorphic... I've tried to apply the 16:9 pan/crop tool along with rendering to Widescreen w/ 2-3-3-2 pulldown (AVI). Whenever i view it with media player it violently shakes back and forth and doesnt seem anamorphic, however with powerdvd it plays fine but it's not anamorphic (i see still see the black lines on top/bottom) What am i doing wrong?

Rob Lohman · April 12th, 2004, 07:05 AM

Are you logging in as Administrator or not? You should never
de-activate any service you can in Windows. A lot of services
are really required for a correctly working system (depending on
what you are doing with it). Some services can be disabled
indeed.

Rob Lohman · April 12th, 2004, 07:45 AM

The latest version of Vegas is 4.0e, I would definitely upgrade to
it. We cannot tell you whether or not this will help with your
problem because we still haven't identified the problem. Using
another problem doesn't mean the Vegas tool is the problem.
Not answering my questions doesn't allow us to help you.

You can get the update from the Sony site

Vince Debart · April 12th, 2004, 09:54 AM

Thanks guys

Emre Safak · April 12th, 2004, 10:39 AM

Terminal services was indeed the offender. Thank you very much gentlemen.

I am impressed by the astute diagnosis.

John Gaspain · April 12th, 2004, 01:58 PM

In these movies how do they make the green and tan so prevalent? It looks like saturation and contrast? How can I do this in Vegas?

John Gaspain · April 12th, 2004, 02:44 PM

nevermind...it appears that they just used ALOT of colored lights

Milt Lee · April 12th, 2004, 10:42 PM

OK folks, I'm sorry if this is too easy, but I've really tried to get this. Read the little manual, the help file, even Doug's book, and it seems this is too simple to really explain, or I'm too dumb.

Anyway, I just want to put some plain old text with a landscape shot behind it. White letters, (or black) with drop shadow. And then just have the landscape shot just be there.

I really need to understand all the modes that are possible in compositing - I've looked at the samples that are in the help file, and they are quite small, and it's hard to tell what's really going on there.

Can some one give me a hand?

thanks a bunch!

Milt Lee

Vince Debart · April 13th, 2004, 03:53 AM

Milt

See this thread

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=24384

I just learned it too

Vince

Peter Jefferson · April 13th, 2004, 07:03 AM

actually they didnt.. its all done in post my friend....

have a look at teh making of clips and check out the raw footage :)

Edward Troxel · April 13th, 2004, 07:23 AM

When wanting to layer something over something else, you place it on a track ABOVE the background. If you place it on the same track, it will replace the original background. So, set up the project as such:

Track 1: Text Generated Media
Track 2: Video background

Also, when adding the text generated media, pick one with a checkerboard background. That indicates that the background is transparent allowing track 2 to show through.

In the text generated media are many options including the drop shadow option.

I recommend you look through my newsletters at http://www.jetdv.com/tts

John Gaspain · April 13th, 2004, 07:49 AM

ok, im confused now

Milt Lee · April 13th, 2004, 07:52 AM

Thanks, Edward. It worked just fine.

But there is some additional information that I didn't know about.

When I first did what you suggested, it still didn't work right. It showed the background through the letters. So I took a look at the compositing mode, and in my messing around, I had changed the compositing mode to "screen"

There are about 12 different modes that it can be in and I guess "source alpha" is the right mode.

I had also managed to add a "parent overlay mode" which was set on default.

In order to get rid of that, I had to delete the track then start over.

What I'm discovering is that if you are trying to do some, you need to remember to "undo" what you try each time, so that you don't end up with something that just doesn't work.

Thanks again, though. I've got it working now, but I still don't really get all the other options.

Milt Lee

Edward Troxel · April 13th, 2004, 08:22 AM

If you have the parent/child mode selected between tracks 1 and 2, the video will show in the LETTERS.

Kevin Kimmell · April 13th, 2004, 09:15 AM

Can anyone reccomend any books or guides to help me get to that "next level" in terms of editing with Vegas?

I'm now quite comfortable with synching my multiple video and audio sources and using some different techniques (thanks E.T.!) to switch camera views...

But now I want to get a bit more creative with it. I'd like to crop around a portion of one of my video feeds and track the movment of the object within that crop and then mask the background out and then put some visuualization effects on that background.

I'm not even sure if these types of things are possible within Vegas and for the price I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't.

Any pointers or titles, or websites would be muchos appreciated.

Thanks,
Kevin

April 12th, 2004, 12:54 AM	#1231
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	making an anamorphic dvd I recently imported 24PA footage from my dvx100 (with on-cam 16:9 cropping) into vegas but cannot seem to render it as true anamorphic... I've tried to apply the 16:9 pan/crop tool along with rendering to Widescreen w/ 2-3-3-2 pulldown (AVI). Whenever i view it with media player it violently shakes back and forth and doesnt seem anamorphic, however with powerdvd it plays fine but it's not anamorphic (i see still see the black lines on top/bottom) What am i doing wrong?

April 12th, 2004, 07:05 AM	#1232
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Are you logging in as Administrator or not? You should never de-activate any service you can in Windows. A lot of services are really required for a correctly working system (depending on what you are doing with it). Some services can be disabled indeed. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 12th, 2004, 07:45 AM	#1233
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The latest version of Vegas is 4.0e, I would definitely upgrade to it. We cannot tell you whether or not this will help with your problem because we still haven't identified the problem. Using another problem doesn't mean the Vegas tool is the problem. Not answering my questions doesn't allow us to help you. You can get the update from the Sony site __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 12th, 2004, 01:58 PM	#1236
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	Swordfish & Matrix green In these movies how do they make the green and tan so prevalent? It looks like saturation and contrast? How can I do this in Vegas? __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

April 12th, 2004, 02:44 PM	#1237
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	nevermind...it appears that they just used ALOT of colored lights __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

April 12th, 2004, 09:54 AM	#1234
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	Thanks guys

April 12th, 2004, 10:39 AM	#1235
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Terminal services was indeed the offender. Thank you very much gentlemen. I am impressed by the astute diagnosis.

April 12th, 2004, 10:42 PM	#1238
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	compositing in vegas - titles OK folks, I'm sorry if this is too easy, but I've really tried to get this. Read the little manual, the help file, even Doug's book, and it seems this is too simple to really explain, or I'm too dumb. Anyway, I just want to put some plain old text with a landscape shot behind it. White letters, (or black) with drop shadow. And then just have the landscape shot just be there. I really need to understand all the modes that are possible in compositing - I've looked at the samples that are in the help file, and they are quite small, and it's hard to tell what's really going on there. Can some one give me a hand? thanks a bunch! Milt Lee

April 13th, 2004, 03:53 AM	#1239
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	Milt See this thread http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=24384 I just learned it too Vince

April 13th, 2004, 07:03 AM	#1240
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	actually they didnt.. its all done in post my friend.... have a look at teh making of clips and check out the raw footage :)

April 13th, 2004, 07:23 AM	#1241
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	When wanting to layer something over something else, you place it on a track ABOVE the background. If you place it on the same track, it will replace the original background. So, set up the project as such: Track 1: Text Generated Media Track 2: Video background Also, when adding the text generated media, pick one with a checkerboard background. That indicates that the background is transparent allowing track 2 to show through. In the text generated media are many options including the drop shadow option. I recommend you look through my newsletters at http://www.jetdv.com/tts

April 13th, 2004, 07:49 AM	#1242
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	ok, im confused now __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

April 13th, 2004, 07:52 AM	#1243
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	More Information Thanks, Edward. It worked just fine. But there is some additional information that I didn't know about. When I first did what you suggested, it still didn't work right. It showed the background through the letters. So I took a look at the compositing mode, and in my messing around, I had changed the compositing mode to "screen" There are about 12 different modes that it can be in and I guess "source alpha" is the right mode. I had also managed to add a "parent overlay mode" which was set on default. In order to get rid of that, I had to delete the track then start over. What I'm discovering is that if you are trying to do some, you need to remember to "undo" what you try each time, so that you don't end up with something that just doesn't work. Thanks again, though. I've got it working now, but I still don't really get all the other options. Milt Lee

April 13th, 2004, 08:22 AM	#1244
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you have the parent/child mode selected between tracks 1 and 2, the video will show in the LETTERS.

April 13th, 2004, 09:15 AM	#1245
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	Any good or GREAT Vegas books/guides? Can anyone reccomend any books or guides to help me get to that "next level" in terms of editing with Vegas? I'm now quite comfortable with synching my multiple video and audio sources and using some different techniques (thanks E.T.!) to switch camera views... But now I want to get a bit more creative with it. I'd like to crop around a portion of one of my video feeds and track the movment of the object within that crop and then mask the background out and then put some visuualization effects on that background. I'm not even sure if these types of things are possible within Vegas and for the price I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't. Any pointers or titles, or websites would be muchos appreciated. Thanks, Kevin