Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · May 25th, 2005, 10:48 AM

#1) depends on what you are wanting to do. When I am printing to tape, I render as DV-AVI. When I'm making a DVD, I render to MPEG2. When making something for the web, WMV. It all depends on your current task which you haven't defined here.

#2) I have left these at the default settings

#3) Unless you're doing photo montages or something using very hi-res images with scaling, you don't need "Best" - stick with "Good".

David Bird · May 25th, 2005, 10:54 AM

Thanks for your help....
David

Milt Lee · May 25th, 2005, 12:22 PM

excellent - I'll give them a call.

Milt

Brandon Wood · May 25th, 2005, 08:46 PM

I am doing various projects in Vegas right now, one being a wedding, but everything I do goes to DVD, not the web or back to tape, and I want the best quality.

Thanks for the response Edward - still curious about the codec to use out of the MANY in the Vegas dropdown box. I guess since Cinepak is first, maybe it's best??

Edward Troxel · May 25th, 2005, 09:49 PM

If you are going to DVD, you want to create MPEG2 files - NOT AVI. Even if I were creating an AVI file I'd use the standard NTSC-DV (assuming US standards).

Go to File - Render As. As the "Save As type", pick MPEG2. Under the presets, choose one of the DVD Architect settings and then go to custom and don't change anything except the average bitrate. This needs to be modified to match the length of your video.

I have how to create a DVD written up in one of the issues of my newsletter (I think Vol 1 #7 without looking to verify). Just click on the link under my name.

Mitch Buss · May 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM

I have a DivX file with an avi extension that plays just fine with the DivX player, but when I bring it into Vegas, the video is about a quarter as long as the audio track and there is no audio. It is just a straight line. Any suggestions?

MITCH

Glenn Chan · May 25th, 2005, 11:20 PM

Try converting it. Someone on the Sony forum suggested virtualdub. Use a lossless codec like huffyuv, or use DV.

RAD video tools converting it to uncompressed AVI worked for me, but I suspect virtualdub works better.

Gregory Doi · May 25th, 2005, 11:48 PM

Version 6.0a worked fine on one computer but the media manager would crash continually on the second computer.

After I installed version B both crash on startup. anybody know why?

Peter Jefferson · May 26th, 2005, 12:29 AM

do u have acid5 installed??
also have u ever installed acid5??

im also gettin this problem and its a known issue..

heres some feedback from sony

Im still investigating the issue from this end, hopefully theyll find a workaround..

"Some of you have reported having stability issues with the Media Manager
active. If this is you, it is recommended that you completely uninstall
Vegas 6, all versions of the Sony Media Manager, and, if present ACID
Pro 5, and then reinstall ACID Pro 5 (current version on our website)
and this, build #110 (or any later build) of Vegas 6. This should ensure
that no beta or mismatched shared Media Manager components are residing
on your system.

Peter Jefferson · May 26th, 2005, 12:38 AM

i actaully use Main concept Main Actor 5.2 if i need it as DV, or if i jsut want to convert it, i use ManConcepts mpg converter

Gregory Doi · May 26th, 2005, 01:07 AM

Thanks Peter. I did everything you said and it did work.......sort of........Acid worked fine after the reinstall. Vegas sort of works better. it doesnt freeze when I open up small veg files but still freezes on the bigger veg files.

small file is about 16kb and big is considered 68kb.

so there is still something wrong; however, i did find that if i unselect the "automatically open up last project" option in the preferences window then Vegas starts up a lot better.

I feel like throwing the system out the window. hehe.

Kyle Ringin · May 26th, 2005, 01:11 AM

Brandon,
As Edward has said, if you are going to DVD output, render to DVD compliant mpeg2. This means you won't have to rerender and thus lose quality. The only time you shouldn't is if you render to an uncompressed file for compression in a third party compressor (Cinema Craft Encoder, etc).
I only ever use two codecs in Vegas: Mpeg2 for DVD, AVI-PAL for print to tape. Oh, also AC3 and WAV audio.

About deinterlacing, if you require it, visit http://mikecrash.wz.cz/. He has written a vegas filter based on the Smart Deinterlacer for virtualdub you can try.

Cory Moorehead · May 26th, 2005, 05:59 AM

I thought Vegas 6.0 could recognize the nonsync'ed audio by turning the clip ink..of course only with an original file ? Or is it only for AVI ?

Edward Troxel · May 26th, 2005, 07:04 AM

Vegas 6 will do that if the two pieces are moved out of sync. However, it the playback STARTS out of sync, there's no way for Vegas to know.

Hendy Witanto · May 26th, 2005, 08:59 AM

hello,
does anybody have experience with the settings in Divx and 3ivx to make this both codecks working well? I realized problems in Vegas, when there are instaled this codecks.... rendering is so much slower, sometimes the result is not smooth...

thx.

May 25th, 2005, 10:48 AM	#1666
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	#1) depends on what you are wanting to do. When I am printing to tape, I render as DV-AVI. When I'm making a DVD, I render to MPEG2. When making something for the web, WMV. It all depends on your current task which you haven't defined here. #2) I have left these at the default settings #3) Unless you're doing photo montages or something using very hi-res images with scaling, you don't need "Best" - stick with "Good". __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 25th, 2005, 12:22 PM	#1668
Milt Lee Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cass Lake MN Posts: 221	excellent - I'll give them a call. Milt __________________ Professional website - http://manykites.com Personal - http://mrdogsblog.com

May 25th, 2005, 09:49 PM	#1670
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you are going to DVD, you want to create MPEG2 files - NOT AVI. Even if I were creating an AVI file I'd use the standard NTSC-DV (assuming US standards). Go to File - Render As. As the "Save As type", pick MPEG2. Under the presets, choose one of the DVD Architect settings and then go to custom and don't change anything except the average bitrate. This needs to be modified to match the length of your video. I have how to create a DVD written up in one of the issues of my newsletter (I think Vol 1 #7 without looking to verify). Just click on the link under my name. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM	#1671
Mitch Buss Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 184	Using DivX Files I have a DivX file with an avi extension that plays just fine with the DivX player, but when I bring it into Vegas, the video is about a quarter as long as the audio track and there is no audio. It is just a straight line. Any suggestions? MITCH

May 26th, 2005, 05:59 AM	#1678
Cory Moorehead Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 148	I thought Vegas 6.0 could recognize the nonsync'ed audio by turning the clip ink..of course only with an original file ? Or is it only for AVI ? __________________ Because im that...damn...good.

May 25th, 2005, 10:54 AM	#1667
David Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sikeston, Missouri, USA Posts: 118	Thanks for your help.... David

May 25th, 2005, 08:46 PM	#1669
Brandon Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mauriceville, TX Posts: 146	I am doing various projects in Vegas right now, one being a wedding, but everything I do goes to DVD, not the web or back to tape, and I want the best quality. Thanks for the response Edward - still curious about the codec to use out of the MANY in the Vegas dropdown box. I guess since Cinepak is first, maybe it's best??

May 25th, 2005, 11:20 PM	#1672
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Try converting it. Someone on the Sony forum suggested virtualdub. Use a lossless codec like huffyuv, or use DV. RAD video tools converting it to uncompressed AVI worked for me, but I suspect virtualdub works better.

May 25th, 2005, 11:48 PM	#1673
Gregory Doi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 70	Version 6.0a worked fine on one computer but the media manager would crash continually on the second computer. After I installed version B both crash on startup. anybody know why?

May 26th, 2005, 12:29 AM	#1674
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	do u have acid5 installed?? also have u ever installed acid5?? im also gettin this problem and its a known issue.. heres some feedback from sony Im still investigating the issue from this end, hopefully theyll find a workaround.. "Some of you have reported having stability issues with the Media Manager active. If this is you, it is recommended that you completely uninstall Vegas 6, all versions of the Sony Media Manager, and, if present ACID Pro 5, and then reinstall ACID Pro 5 (current version on our website) and this, build #110 (or any later build) of Vegas 6. This should ensure that no beta or mismatched shared Media Manager components are residing on your system.

May 26th, 2005, 12:38 AM	#1675
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	i actaully use Main concept Main Actor 5.2 if i need it as DV, or if i jsut want to convert it, i use ManConcepts mpg converter

May 26th, 2005, 01:07 AM	#1676
Gregory Doi Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Waipahu, Hawaii Posts: 70	Thanks Peter. I did everything you said and it did work.......sort of........Acid worked fine after the reinstall. Vegas sort of works better. it doesnt freeze when I open up small veg files but still freezes on the bigger veg files. small file is about 16kb and big is considered 68kb. so there is still something wrong; however, i did find that if i unselect the "automatically open up last project" option in the preferences window then Vegas starts up a lot better. I feel like throwing the system out the window. hehe.

May 26th, 2005, 01:11 AM	#1677
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Brandon, As Edward has said, if you are going to DVD output, render to DVD compliant mpeg2. This means you won't have to rerender and thus lose quality. The only time you shouldn't is if you render to an uncompressed file for compression in a third party compressor (Cinema Craft Encoder, etc). I only ever use two codecs in Vegas: Mpeg2 for DVD, AVI-PAL for print to tape. Oh, also AC3 and WAV audio. About deinterlacing, if you require it, visit http://mikecrash.wz.cz/. He has written a vegas filter based on the Smart Deinterlacer for virtualdub you can try.

May 26th, 2005, 07:04 AM	#1679
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas 6 will do that if the two pieces are moved out of sync. However, it the playback STARTS out of sync, there's no way for Vegas to know. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

May 26th, 2005, 08:59 AM	#1680
Hendy Witanto New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Prague, Czech rep. Posts: 16	DivX vs. 3ivX hello, does anybody have experience with the settings in Divx and 3ivx to make this both codecks working well? I realized problems in Vegas, when there are instaled this codecks.... rendering is so much slower, sometimes the result is not smooth... thx.