Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

[Paul Del Vecchio]

Damn... oh well..... Cool... thanks!
-Paul

[Edward Troxel]

Yes it does.

[Edward Troxel]

Just looked it up. It's in: Vol 2 #10 - December 2004

[Paul Kali]

Hey Edward,
Thanks for your response. I did try installing and uninstalling vegas. I still ahve the same trouble. I downloaded a codec package called FFdShow. Have other codecs known to cause problems in vegas? I just dont know how to fix this problem.

[Glenn Chan]

Figured something out about Mike Crash's smart de-interlace filter:

You have to set project properties to:
Progressive, not lower or upper field first. If you don't do this, the filter will only have access to each field and it won't work with default presets.

De-interlace mode has to be set to None. Otherwise, Vegas' de-interlace method will be used. Which defeats the point of everything, since you want to be using Mike's filter.

2- In the FX window, there are little triangles in the bottom left beside filter names. They determine whether the filter is applied before or after pan/crop. I would assign the de-interlace filter to go before, so click on the triangle once.

[Newdjeen Klime]

If you use external monitor you see

1.In an operating time with envelopes - is cuttin, splitting, panning, adjustmenting effects, etc... - previewing will be in two monitor windows
2. During preview - only on the external monitor

[Edward Troxel]

You may wish to call tech support and see if there's a known solution or they can find one. This is not a problem I have heard of.

[Newdjeen Klime]

Originally Posted by Paul Kali

I still ahve the same trouble. I downloaded a codec package called FFdShow...

NEVER INSTALL ANY CODECS and CODEC-PACKS if you d'nt understand what is this codec and as it works
Codec packs is ONE BIG TROUBLE fnd dont debugged PROBLEM to all NLE Computers.

Next - your problem its problem in you Vegas Software - if you dont understand where is the problem - try install another mp3 codec (for example - Lame)

*FFdShow its not a codec - its DirectShow filter for viewing DivX/XviD video files

Sorry for my English

[Hugh DiMauro]

Here's what I do:

Edit the movie. When you click "Render as" go to the "custom settings" tab. Then click the "video" tab then click "progressive scan". That's the way I do it. It always looks good.

[Paul Kali]

http://eden.rutgers.edu/~zurri/Misc/...enshot%201.JPG

That is a link to a screenshot of my vegas mp3 problem. The max i can get is
as you can see 56kbit @ 24hz

i will try and use lame..and report back

[Newdjeen Klime]

Paul, I have looked your snapshot...
Its All right and you do not have any problems
Before you renderig mp3 audio only (or another (non *avi) video format)
Now you want render video with a soundtrack, but a sound parameters its one, and a video (video for window (*avi))+audio its others - so it in the program preferences, options and ets (name this as you want ;-) - this is International ISO Standarts (For example - in professional MPEG-4 *avi video you never see VBR *mp3 audio)

If you want to keep a sound in *mp3 with one higher bitrate:
1 use external *mp3 codecs
2 save (render) a video & audio separately, and then simply "stick" them in a VirtualDub by use "Direct streem Copy"

[Kyle Ringin]

I did some tests a while ago with MC's filter to compare to vegas's 'reduce interlace flicker' - it was heaps sharper in most areas.

IIRC I captured as normal, left the clip properties as interlaced LFF. Project set to none (progressive) and rendered to progressive.

I am looking for a run down on the settings withing the filter too. I'll send Mike an email..

BTW I just noticed Mike has updated the filter as of the 9 june.

[Kyle Ringin]

If you are using this monitor to colour correct, I hope your svhs o/p from video card is better than mine - it's contrast and brightness are all over the place, I wouldn't trust in 1/24th as far as I could throw it :)

I always connect a tv via firewire (through my camera) for final colour correction, brightness, contrast, etc.

Cheers

[Neil Slade]

Okay, I can't believe I'm the only one who has noticed this

I've got a DVX100 Letterbox project, shot in 24AP

I monitor with an external 20" Sony Wega, brand new.

It chops of the right and left edges of the image maybe 5% on each side when editing. Its the same on any TV or monitor.

I looked at the properties-- set to NTSC DV24p, just like the whitepaper says to, since this is not really widescreen, but letterboxed by the DVX, and follows the production workflow in the Vegas Whitepaper for the DVX100 projects.

I first noticed that the PREVIEW window in Vegas is DISTORTED-- smashed down, rather than exactly perfect ration- the whole image is there, but its squished.

Further, my EXTERNAL PREVIEW MONITOR clearly has chopped off the right and left image edges. !!

The ONLY CURE is to go into the PROPERTIES box and in PIXEL ASPECT RATIO reselect SQUARE PIXEL instead of the default NTSC DV .9091 which is what is selected according to the Sony Vegas Whitepaper for DVX projects.

This restores the missing portions of the video image edges on my monitor and also puts my Vegas preview window in a correct unsquished state.

?????????? How could they get this wrong in the whitepaper recommendations?

THEN-- when I render the file for DVD Architect, I have to do the same thing-- as when I select the suggested default Mainconcept MPEG-2 file, if I leave it as default-- I get the same chopped off edges in my rendered file and subsequent DVD. If I modify the suggested default settings and again choose Custom/Video/Pixel Aspect Ratio and select SQUARE-- my DVD comes out with the correct whole picture showing instead of the edges missing.

If I don't render with square pixels, the resultant MPEG file and subsequent burned DVD is flattened, and once again the edges are missing.

SO what gives? How come no one is talking about this? The one note I've found in regard to this in the Vegas manual says square pixels should not be used for stuff ending up on TV, but its the ONLY way to get the image to look right in both external monitor preivew and rendered and burned DVDs

????????

Neil Slade
www.NeilSlade.com

[Edward Troxel]

I agree.... your snapshot is of the AVI renderers. You're not looking at the MP3 file type. Change the "Save As Type" to MP3 and see what presets you have available.