Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · February 15th, 2005, 03:30 PM

Do you still have that VEG file? And could I test that VEG file?

Jay Hancock · February 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM

Thanks!!!

Greg Jacobson · February 16th, 2005, 04:03 AM

Anybody have any info of future Vegas upgrades for faster HDV editing or are they going to rely on the Cineform products? I would like to edit with Vegas but the Cineform product for Premeire Pro seems to be working better for me than their product for Vegas.

Any news?

Rob Lohman · February 16th, 2005, 05:07 AM

That fixes it as well indeed, BUT, if you want scene detection then
it may work when you disable the other features..... but a capture
is better than no capture eh <g>

Glad it worked!

Rob Lohman · February 16th, 2005, 05:24 AM

As far as I understand it you will need a 3rd party tool to capture
the footage. For more info look around the forum. Hopefully others
will chime in as well.

Rob Lohman · February 16th, 2005, 05:30 AM

Greg: didn't I just explain that in my first reply on this thread? It
tells you how to re-interpret the footage. Ofcourse you can also
downsample from HD -> SD (don't forget it is 16:9 anamorphic).

Adi Head · February 16th, 2005, 09:04 AM

i am creating the soundtrack to a 9 min. animation movie on vegas 5. the movie is not yet complete as far as fine editing and there's still about 5 or 6 shots which have not been fully animated. but there's enough material for me to start working.

i put the video track of the current draft on the project timeline and am adding numerous audio tracks of the different sounds, effects and music which accompany it.

the thing is though, that every week or so, the animator gives me a video file of his latest draft. i replace the former draft in the video track with the new one and then face the task of syncing the audio tracks i have already created to the new video track.

at this stage, most of the movie doesn't change that much, but even a small change in timing will, of course, alter the sync for the rest of the movie from that point onward.

it seems to me that there should be a simple and logical way to add the changes of the video track while keeping the audio tracks in sync. i made a few attempts using the edit-ripple function, grouping and so on, but got into a mess.

can an experienced vegas editor please coach me through the stages he/she thinks is the best and most efficient way to go about doing this?

thanks.

Bill Ravens · February 16th, 2005, 09:40 AM

the best you can do is to have markers inserted at the key audio points. then resync the audio clips to the markers.

Kevin Kimmell · February 16th, 2005, 09:50 AM

I'm trying to take a normal dv sized video and shrink it down to fit within a window during a credit roll. It seems like a simple concept.

Is this confusing? I want to end up with a 720x480 video but I need to shrink an existing 720x480 video down to fit within the one I'm creating without losing any of the scene.

I tried creating a 1440x960 project figuring I could work large and then shrink it down upon rendering, but I can't seem to get that to work.

So now I've rendered the first clip out to 360x240 and then started a new project with a credit roll at 720x480. When I try to bring the smaller rendered video track in, it's being resized to the full DV size and I can't seem to effect it in the Pan/Crop window.

What am I missing?

Thanks,
Kevin

Bobby Abernathy · February 16th, 2005, 09:59 AM

Is there a setting that affects the speed of the mouse in Vegas 5? I have my Windows mouse set pretty fast, so I don't have to physically move the mouse very much across two monitors. But as soon as I click on Vegas and have it in focus, my mouse is so slow. I have to move the mouse 8 - 10 inches just to move it halfway across the timeline. As soon as I bring another application into focus, or even Explorer, my mouse is back to it's zippy self. But with Vegas on top and in focus, it's making my arm tired ;) Thanks.

Kevin Kimmell · February 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM

Sorry... I figured this out and tried to delete this thread.

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 10:06 AM

Basically, it sounds like you simply need a way of selecting all audio events after the cursor to move them slightly left or right. Is this true?

If that's what you need, you can use the Select Events tool in Tsunami which has the ability to select in a variety of different methods.

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 10:19 AM

Out of curiosity, what kind of mouse?

Edward Troxel · February 16th, 2005, 10:21 AM

Hopefully your solution was to use regular project settings (you didn't need to change anything there) and then use Track Motion to adjust the size and position of the PIP.

If you click the link under my name and read the first three issues of the newsletter, I discuss doing PIPs in full detail.

Kevin Kimmell · February 16th, 2005, 10:24 AM

That's what did it for me... I went back to the printouts of the newsletters that I had read for other things and saw the PIP discussions.

:)

I'm a dope and impatient when my project's ALMOST done.

Thanks again Edward!

You need a cape or something.

-Kevin

February 15th, 2005, 03:30 PM	#571
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Do you still have that VEG file? And could I test that VEG file? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 04:03 AM	#573
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	Any news on future Vegas HDV features? Anybody have any info of future Vegas upgrades for faster HDV editing or are they going to rely on the Cineform products? I would like to edit with Vegas but the Cineform product for Premeire Pro seems to be working better for me than their product for Vegas. Any news?

February 16th, 2005, 05:07 AM	#574
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That fixes it as well indeed, BUT, if you want scene detection then it may work when you disable the other features..... but a capture is better than no capture eh <g> Glad it worked! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 16th, 2005, 05:24 AM	#575
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	As far as I understand it you will need a 3rd party tool to capture the footage. For more info look around the forum. Hopefully others will chime in as well. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 16th, 2005, 05:30 AM	#576
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Greg: didn't I just explain that in my first reply on this thread? It tells you how to re-interpret the footage. Ofcourse you can also downsample from HD -> SD (don't forget it is 16:9 anamorphic). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 15th, 2005, 10:50 PM	#572
Jay Hancock Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 40	Thanks!!!

February 16th, 2005, 09:04 AM	#577
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	difficulty trying to keep video and audio in sync i am creating the soundtrack to a 9 min. animation movie on vegas 5. the movie is not yet complete as far as fine editing and there's still about 5 or 6 shots which have not been fully animated. but there's enough material for me to start working. i put the video track of the current draft on the project timeline and am adding numerous audio tracks of the different sounds, effects and music which accompany it. the thing is though, that every week or so, the animator gives me a video file of his latest draft. i replace the former draft in the video track with the new one and then face the task of syncing the audio tracks i have already created to the new video track. at this stage, most of the movie doesn't change that much, but even a small change in timing will, of course, alter the sync for the rest of the movie from that point onward. it seems to me that there should be a simple and logical way to add the changes of the video track while keeping the audio tracks in sync. i made a few attempts using the edit-ripple function, grouping and so on, but got into a mess. can an experienced vegas editor please coach me through the stages he/she thinks is the best and most efficient way to go about doing this? thanks.

February 16th, 2005, 09:40 AM	#578
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	the best you can do is to have markers inserted at the key audio points. then resync the audio clips to the markers.

February 16th, 2005, 09:50 AM	#579
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	How do I bring video in without resizing? I'm trying to take a normal dv sized video and shrink it down to fit within a window during a credit roll. It seems like a simple concept. Is this confusing? I want to end up with a 720x480 video but I need to shrink an existing 720x480 video down to fit within the one I'm creating without losing any of the scene. I tried creating a 1440x960 project figuring I could work large and then shrink it down upon rendering, but I can't seem to get that to work. So now I've rendered the first clip out to 360x240 and then started a new project with a credit roll at 720x480. When I try to bring the smaller rendered video track in, it's being resized to the full DV size and I can't seem to effect it in the Pan/Crop window. What am I missing? Thanks, Kevin

February 16th, 2005, 09:59 AM	#580
Bobby Abernathy Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Aubrey, TX Posts: 80	mouse speed Is there a setting that affects the speed of the mouse in Vegas 5? I have my Windows mouse set pretty fast, so I don't have to physically move the mouse very much across two monitors. But as soon as I click on Vegas and have it in focus, my mouse is so slow. I have to move the mouse 8 - 10 inches just to move it halfway across the timeline. As soon as I bring another application into focus, or even Explorer, my mouse is back to it's zippy self. But with Vegas on top and in focus, it's making my arm tired ;) Thanks.

February 16th, 2005, 10:01 AM	#581
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	Sorry... I figured this out and tried to delete this thread.

February 16th, 2005, 10:06 AM	#582
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Basically, it sounds like you simply need a way of selecting all audio events after the cursor to move them slightly left or right. Is this true? If that's what you need, you can use the Select Events tool in Tsunami which has the ability to select in a variety of different methods. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 10:19 AM	#583
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Out of curiosity, what kind of mouse? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 10:21 AM	#584
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Hopefully your solution was to use regular project settings (you didn't need to change anything there) and then use Track Motion to adjust the size and position of the PIP. If you click the link under my name and read the first three issues of the newsletter, I discuss doing PIPs in full detail. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

February 16th, 2005, 10:24 AM	#585
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	That's what did it for me... I went back to the printouts of the newsletters that I had read for other things and saw the PIP discussions. :) I'm a dope and impatient when my project's ALMOST done. Thanks again Edward! You need a cape or something. -Kevin