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Kelvin Kelm February 9th, 2005 02:11 PM

Stabilizer Plugin for Vegas?
 
Is anyone aware of a video stabilizer plugin for Vegas 5 that is similar to this Premier Pro plugin?

http://www.wrigleyvideo.com/videotut...steadymove.htm

Thanks

Kelvin

Edward Troxel February 9th, 2005 02:30 PM

Boris Red???

Peter Jefferson February 10th, 2005 08:54 AM

i use steadyhand.. but powerful as it is u have to refine it..
it also has issues with camera flashes and it loses tracking when flash cameras go off

its good, but it could be better..

Peter Jefferson February 12th, 2005 10:15 PM

considering theres a virtuldub plugin which does this, im hoping that someones gonna hack it and get a filter hapening.. (bit like the auto correct, which is AWESOME)

satish (i think) is also working on a Wax plugin which allows the use of virtual dub filters...

Kelvin Kelm February 12th, 2005 10:20 PM

I realize that the Wax plugin works with virtualdub filters, but the "deshaker" filter in virtualdub is a 2-pass filter. Is there a way to use this filter through the Wax plugin in Vegas?

David Mintzer February 13th, 2005 08:52 AM

You might take a look at this article--http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=28849


THis method works pretty well--in fact some people like it better then using a dedicated application.

Yi Fong Yu February 27th, 2006 09:13 PM

hi ya'll,

just shot a lot of very shaky footages (even with the OIS on) from the XL H1 in 24p.

i'll need a method to clean this up via software. i see there's a plug as well as free plugins.

are there simple methods to do this in Vegas 6c? do i require a plugin of some sort to make my image stabilize. i think i'll have to stabilize my ENTIRE project. will i be sacrificing some quality? minimal?

how're people's experiences with image stabilizers on the software front via vegas? any quick solutions/good ones? cost effective?

Emre Safak February 27th, 2006 10:04 PM

You might as well shoot it all over again. Stabilization is very time-consuming and resource-intensive...and that's on SD--you have HD.

Yi Fong Yu February 28th, 2006 07:02 AM

hi Emre,

didya finish that shoot we talked about last time? i'd love to see it! =). email me about it.

re: IS. have you seen some of the demos they have linked here? it's quite good! =).

PS i was just looking around early this morning and noticed that boris fx has plugins for vegas. anyone have experience w/this?

Robert Crawford February 28th, 2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Yi Fong Yu
PS i was just looking around early this morning and noticed that boris fx has plugins for vegas. anyone have experience w/this?

I ran some concert footage through both the Boris stabilizer and deshake.

GENERALLY I liked the deshake results better. The exception was in tight shots, when a performer took up a large portion of the screen. Deshake thought the performer was the stable part of the image, and on output the microphone (for example) was bobbing in time with the music. In tight shots, the raw hand-held footage was often nicer to watch.

In wider shots, deshake was a life-saver. It turned some jerky pans and zooms into smooth, almost professional-looking camera moves.

The Boris stabilizer IN THEORY is better for the tight shots, since you can mark certain features as "fixed" and it won't fall prey to the bobbing-microphone problem. I couldn't quite get it to produce the output I wanted, though, and I'm not sure why. The biggest issue was obvious interlacing artifacts; none of the Boris footage made it into the final cut.

I just didn't have the time to tweak the Boris output, so I can't say if it's my poor knowledge of the Boris interface (which is nasty, IMHO), or just a matter of the source not being fixable.

Yi Fong Yu February 28th, 2006 12:12 PM

but deshake is so long&laborious! =(. does it work with m2t's?

can you use deshake INSIDE of vegas?

Darryl Grob March 3rd, 2006 06:56 PM

Yi Fong Yu:

"does it work with m2t's?"

I don't know, but probably not. The transport stream will like render the process impractical. I've been using the Connect HD capture utility to bring the Z1 output directly into the Connect codec during capture. VirtualDub deshake can handle that. And output same same.

Check out http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/ar...aker_guide.htm

Darryl

Yi Fong Yu March 6th, 2006 08:49 PM

soo... no one has to stabilize their image via software? =). *sigh*.

Douglas Spotted Eagle March 6th, 2006 10:29 PM

You have several answers, but you're not happy with them?
Vegas will accept Red, but that's slow and very expensive.
Vegas will frame serve to DeShaker (which is faster) but that's too slow.
There isn't a fast frameserver or direct motion stabilizer that I'm familiar with, even as a stand alone. Dynapel is quite good, but it takes a long time, and yields soft results.
Nothing is perfect, hence the argument for shooting better in the first place, or using a cam that has a reasonably good optical stabilizer built in, or even electronic stabilization.
Something somewhere, has to be a tradeoff. Speed for quality, convenience for speed. And cost reigns above them all.
Deshake will work with CineForm, but you'd mentioned earlier you'd rather work with m2t's. 24f makes it even more difficult, as trying to stabilize with fewer frames is going to cost you a lot in quality. More frames is much better.
I'd recommend stabilizing what you NEED to stabilize, and practice shooting a bit more. Stay away from the long end of the lens unless you have a tripod.

David Jimerson March 7th, 2006 12:40 PM

Also . . .

What you may be seeing as "shake" might simply be the motion characteristics of 24 fps footage. It doesn't act like normal video where any which camera move is OK . . . ESPECIALLY at the long end of the lens.

Learning to shoot 24fps is above and beyond learning to shoot good video. More rules apply.


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