Vegas Video discussions from 2005 (Q3Q4)

Douglas Spotted Eagle · October 13th, 2005, 10:41 AM

That looks like DV, not HDV...but it also looks like typical DV dropout.

Zach Carter · October 13th, 2005, 12:26 PM

That is what I thought but when it was brought in it didn't have that drop out in it. The drop out occured in my PC somewhere. Well really I don't know where it came from.

Jeff Toogood · October 13th, 2005, 05:54 PM

I am cutting a interview and I just want to spice it up abit.
I want to have a small line across the bottom of the screen that shimmers back and forth, similiar to the windows startup screen.
You know what I am talking about?

James Emory · October 13th, 2005, 05:56 PM

Premiere has a filter called vertical roll to induce the frame line(s) or sync loss effect. Look for something similar in Vegas. Of course, you could actually record a rewind on an actual deck to get the real thing.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · October 13th, 2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Toogood

I am cutting a interview and I just want to spice it up abit.
I want to have a small line across the bottom of the screen that shimmers back and forth, similiar to the windows startup screen.
You know what I am talking about?

You could do this a number of ways, but the easiest way would be to create a mask using the Bezier tool, then float a second mask of generated media across it.
I just built one, but it's WAY too big for what you're asking. However, you can probably modify it very easily to be what you want.
Find it at http://www.vasst.com/resource.aspx?i...f-4f300e1c46b0

Sean Seah · October 13th, 2005, 06:36 PM

Maybe u can use a cookie cutter on the interview track on top, and place the generated media below.The gen media can be set to change progressively.I'm not sure the effect may be a lot less subtle then what u r hoping for with this method.

Otherwise u keyframe the cookie cutter to move?

DJ Kinney · October 13th, 2005, 09:59 PM

I just posted a question like this in the open forum, but I'm not cross-posting because this is specifically about the Vegas side of the problem. :-)

I just downloaded these video clips from Ares, the P2P file sharing program. I take them and drop them into the timeline and a strange thing happens. While they are the size of the full clip, about 20 megs, they show up in the timeline as only 10 seconds long. I zoom in on the clip, and get the individual frame thumbnails, but check this out...as I scrub the cursor, the thumbnails change.

What I'm saying is that if I hit play, it will play the first 10 seconds of the video and stop. If, however, in the middle of playing the clip, I move the cursor, it will start from a different spot, further on in the clip, though inaccessible to any player.

This problem is consistant with Media Player, PowerDVD, Ares Player, and Vegas.

Any info?

Vince Debart · October 14th, 2005, 03:53 AM

I want to switch to a LCD computer monitor, any recommendations?

Thanks

Vince

Steven Davis · October 14th, 2005, 06:04 AM

I use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001185 It's the Samsung 19'', I've been very very happy with it. In general, my lcd is much more pleasing to look at than my CRT's.

Karl Heiner · October 14th, 2005, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

I use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001185 It's the Samsung 19'', I've been very very happy with it. In general, my lcd is much more pleasing to look at than my CRT's.

hello steven,

just got myself the same monitor. needed about a week to get adjustet to the 19". had 15 for years. nice clear pic. money well spend

greetings

Steven Davis · October 14th, 2005, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl Heiner

hello steven,

just got myself the same monitor. needed about a week to get adjustet to the 19". had 15 for years. nice clear pic. money well spend

greetings

If my CFO would let me I'd get two more. Instead of my CRT's. One of my CRT's is dying, and when it does, I might get another LCD.

Vince Debart · October 14th, 2005, 07:44 AM

thanks for the link will check it out...

Vince

Glenn Chan · October 14th, 2005, 08:03 AM

You might want to check hot deals sites for a deal on something like Dell computer monitors. It's more bang for your buck (compared to buying at newegg.com prices I think) when they're on sale.

Don Donatello · October 14th, 2005, 10:05 AM

question on gearshift?

does gearshift convert the files to cineforms "direct show" version file or "video for windows" version file ?

from cineform site:
Vegas only uses the Video for Windows version of the CineForm codec while HDLink uses the DirectShow version. The DirectShow version is a bit more sophisticated about the manner in which we can code our files, so we get approximately a 30% reduction in file size with HDLink. These smaller files also perform "faster" on the Vegas timeline. There is no quality disadvantage with the VfW codec, and the bitstreams are 100% compatible.

Edward Troxel · October 14th, 2005, 10:45 AM

Gearshift simply does the exact same thing as you manually choosing File - Render As in Vegas. It's a script that runs in Vegas that automates the process for you. So, if Vegas uses the "Video for Windows" version, Gearshift will too as it uses Vegas to do the rendering.

October 13th, 2005, 10:41 AM	#886
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	That looks like DV, not HDV...but it also looks like typical DV dropout. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

October 13th, 2005, 05:54 PM	#888
Jeff Toogood Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: St.Thomas, Ontario, CANADA Posts: 428	How can I do this? I am cutting a interview and I just want to spice it up abit. I want to have a small line across the bottom of the screen that shimmers back and forth, similiar to the windows startup screen. You know what I am talking about? __________________ Toogood Studios

October 13th, 2005, 09:59 PM	#892
DJ Kinney Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 277	Strange problem with mpegs on my timeline I just posted a question like this in the open forum, but I'm not cross-posting because this is specifically about the Vegas side of the problem. :-) I just downloaded these video clips from Ares, the P2P file sharing program. I take them and drop them into the timeline and a strange thing happens. While they are the size of the full clip, about 20 megs, they show up in the timeline as only 10 seconds long. I zoom in on the clip, and get the individual frame thumbnails, but check this out...as I scrub the cursor, the thumbnails change. What I'm saying is that if I hit play, it will play the first 10 seconds of the video and stop. If, however, in the middle of playing the clip, I move the cursor, it will start from a different spot, further on in the clip, though inaccessible to any player. This problem is consistant with Media Player, PowerDVD, Ares Player, and Vegas. Any info?

October 14th, 2005, 03:53 AM	#893
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	Monitor help I want to switch to a LCD computer monitor, any recommendations? Thanks Vince

October 14th, 2005, 06:04 AM	#894
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	I use this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001185 It's the Samsung 19'', I've been very very happy with it. In general, my lcd is much more pleasing to look at than my CRT's. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

October 13th, 2005, 12:26 PM	#887
Zach Carter Tourist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lexington, ky Posts: 3	That is what I thought but when it was brought in it didn't have that drop out in it. The drop out occured in my PC somewhere. Well really I don't know where it came from.

October 13th, 2005, 05:56 PM	#889
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Premiere has a filter called vertical roll to induce the frame line(s) or sync loss effect. Look for something similar in Vegas. Of course, you could actually record a rewind on an actual deck to get the real thing.

October 13th, 2005, 06:36 PM	#891
Sean Seah Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,498	Maybe u can use a cookie cutter on the interview track on top, and place the generated media below.The gen media can be set to change progressively.I'm not sure the effect may be a lot less subtle then what u r hoping for with this method. Otherwise u keyframe the cookie cutter to move?

October 14th, 2005, 07:44 AM	#897
Vince Debart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 254	thanks for the link will check it out... Vince

October 14th, 2005, 08:03 AM	#898
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You might want to check hot deals sites for a deal on something like Dell computer monitors. It's more bang for your buck (compared to buying at newegg.com prices I think) when they're on sale.

October 14th, 2005, 10:05 AM	#899
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	Gearshift ? question on gearshift? does gearshift convert the files to cineforms "direct show" version file or "video for windows" version file ? from cineform site: Vegas only uses the Video for Windows version of the CineForm codec while HDLink uses the DirectShow version. The DirectShow version is a bit more sophisticated about the manner in which we can code our files, so we get approximately a 30% reduction in file size with HDLink. These smaller files also perform "faster" on the Vegas timeline. There is no quality disadvantage with the VfW codec, and the bitstreams are 100% compatible.

October 14th, 2005, 10:45 AM	#900
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Gearshift simply does the exact same thing as you manually choosing File - Render As in Vegas. It's a script that runs in Vegas that automates the process for you. So, if Vegas uses the "Video for Windows" version, Gearshift will too as it uses Vegas to do the rendering. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters