Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Ryan King · July 24th, 2006, 09:16 PM

wow.. this is really got me stumped.. I got this whole commercial done and I cant render it. well, I can render everything but that swish avi, that I have re-dumped from other conversetion programs five times.. why would vegas play a avi and allow me to edit it, but leave the track out on render?

Peter Diamond · July 24th, 2006, 10:45 PM

I appreciate all the responses. I'm open to more suggestions and explanations.

Thank you.

Zdravko Jancevski · July 25th, 2006, 03:10 AM

I use "Blufftitler" to create titling efect, saving AVI file then I open it in Vegas where in it's properties I select Alpha channel from "None" to "Premultiplied(dirty) "and it's work, title is appear overlay to main clip .
I use same process with AVI file that I made with "Particle illusion" but I can't
make same overlay effect.What is the problem? I only can get overlay when in Compositing mode I select "Lighten" but overlay effect is not so clear.
Any sugestions?
Regards.

David Bird · July 25th, 2006, 06:45 AM

Edward...works for me. It's amazing how much I DON'T know about this program.
Regards - db

Gary Franks · July 25th, 2006, 07:44 AM

A lot of it comes down to your burner, Media type, and Player.

DVD-R is a more Universal friendly format, but also beware of what maker of the media you use. Some players can't read generic media, so you have to spend money on quality stuff (Taiyo Yuden).

I myself never import footage into architech I just render to AVI and then open it in Arch... It seems to work better. However, I would try using a DVD-R anything labeled FUJI made in Japan is Taiyo Yuden and is solid media that plays in just about every player in the world.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 25th, 2006, 07:45 AM

I'd guess you're not outputting a 32bit avi from Particle Illusion. You need 32bit files so that they contain the transparency/alpha.

Gary Franks · July 25th, 2006, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Orewiler

thank you....the part of the problem is that I'm editing on a smaller than ideal LCD screen that only allows me to view portions of the software - which is why the text preview screen was hidden....I need a 27" LCD SCREEN and I'd be happy!!! :-)

Change your screen resolution. I have edited in Vegas on 17" LCD WS, 17" LCD and 19" LCD and I see everything. You need to use a minimum of 1024x768 when using vegas.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 25th, 2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Franks

I myself never import footage into architech I just render to AVI and then open it in Arch... It seems to work better..

Gary, while this may be true for you, you'll virtually *always* get a better encode using Vegas vs DVD Architect. Additionally and more importantly, encoding from the timeline preserves most of the color sampling of any media you may have used outside of DV-acquired media such as graphics, titles, 32bit overlays, etc.

You are correct that media plays a huge role in compatibility, and using off-the-Walmart-shelf media can set you up for problems. Using TY or other high-grade DVDs is the better option.

Ken Plotin · July 25th, 2006, 09:32 AM

Try exporting a Targa still sequence from PI. Save the alpha channel with the image and you're good to go.

Hope this helps.

Ken

David Delaney · July 25th, 2006, 01:50 PM

Scrap that, figured it out. I was trying to use a DV project for HD.

Now, for the FX1, what do I use for the project settings? It is FX1 NTSC 60i camera that I am using, but I noticed that I can set up a project for 1440 or 1920 - how do I tell which one I have used in the camera?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 25th, 2006, 01:54 PM

which version of Vegas are you using?

Kevin Richard · July 25th, 2006, 03:53 PM

This may just be one of those "that's just how it works" things but it still bothers me so I must ask.

How come Vegas can "JKL" up to 4x speed and zip along.. but if you do a speed up via properties/playback rate or a velocity envelope then "oh no" you must render it and it plays back choppy?

Anyone have any advice on settings to make sure are right for best playback rate (preview wise)... I know it's largely (mostly) a cpu thing... just wondering if I'm missing something or click something wrong.

Ryan King · July 25th, 2006, 05:13 PM

I GOT IT WORKING!! it seems you can't play a uncompressed avi from swish (you have to use a codec) in vegas, and the ones I was re-dumping through converters where not allowing me to render it in vegas although it would play.. to make a logn story short, I dump uncompressed avi out of swish, then us RAD VideoTools (a free converter) to re-dump as uncompressed again..never loose quality and vegas sems to play and render it fine.

Brian Luce · July 26th, 2006, 01:13 AM

If I buy a second hand copy of vegas is the license transferrable? Am I breaking the rules and being naughty?

I once bought a second hand version for Film FX and it easily transferred and i even got tech support from the manufacturer.

Mark Bryant · July 26th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Yes, you are allowed to buy/sell the software. See the EULA:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/support/eula.asp

Specifically:

5. ASSIGNMENT. You may assign the Software to a third party only if they agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement. If you assign the Software, your rights under this Agreement will terminate immediately and you must: (a) cease all use of the Software, (b) permanently delete all copies of the Software from the computer on which it has been installed, and (c) deliver the original Software to the transferee, You may not retain the original or any copies of the Software.

July 25th, 2006, 03:10 AM	#333
Zdravko Jancevski Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Macedonia Posts: 36	Alpha Channel Overlay I use "Blufftitler" to create titling efect, saving AVI file then I open it in Vegas where in it's properties I select Alpha channel from "None" to "Premultiplied(dirty) "and it's work, title is appear overlay to main clip . I use same process with AVI file that I made with "Particle illusion" but I can't make same overlay effect.What is the problem? I only can get overlay when in Compositing mode I select "Lighten" but overlay effect is not so clear. Any sugestions? Regards.

July 25th, 2006, 07:44 AM	#335
Gary Franks Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germantown, MD Posts: 46	A lot of it comes down to your burner, Media type, and Player. DVD-R is a more Universal friendly format, but also beware of what maker of the media you use. Some players can't read generic media, so you have to spend money on quality stuff (Taiyo Yuden). I myself never import footage into architech I just render to AVI and then open it in Arch... It seems to work better. However, I would try using a DVD-R anything labeled FUJI made in Japan is Taiyo Yuden and is solid media that plays in just about every player in the world. __________________ Panasonic DVX100B, INTEL Core 2 DU0 at 3.0ghz 2 TB HDD space, Sony Vegas 8.0B, 4gb of Ram

July 25th, 2006, 07:45 AM	#336
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	I'd guess you're not outputting a 32bit avi from Particle Illusion. You need 32bit files so that they contain the transparency/alpha. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 25th, 2006, 01:50 PM	#340
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	mt2 file - why doesn't Vegas recognize it? Scrap that, figured it out. I was trying to use a DV project for HD. Now, for the FX1, what do I use for the project settings? It is FX1 NTSC 60i camera that I am using, but I noticed that I can set up a project for 1440 or 1920 - how do I tell which one I have used in the camera?

July 25th, 2006, 01:54 PM	#341
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	which version of Vegas are you using? __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

July 24th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#331
Ryan King New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mobile,al Posts: 12	wow.. this is really got me stumped.. I got this whole commercial done and I cant render it. well, I can render everything but that swish avi, that I have re-dumped from other conversetion programs five times.. why would vegas play a avi and allow me to edit it, but leave the track out on render?

July 24th, 2006, 10:45 PM	#332
Peter Diamond New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 13	I appreciate all the responses. I'm open to more suggestions and explanations. Thank you.

July 25th, 2006, 06:45 AM	#334
David Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sikeston, Missouri, USA Posts: 118	Edward...works for me. It's amazing how much I DON'T know about this program. Regards - db

July 25th, 2006, 09:32 AM	#339
Ken Plotin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 254	Try exporting a Targa still sequence from PI. Save the alpha channel with the image and you're good to go. Hope this helps. Ken

July 25th, 2006, 03:53 PM	#342
Kevin Richard Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 270	previewing question This may just be one of those "that's just how it works" things but it still bothers me so I must ask. How come Vegas can "JKL" up to 4x speed and zip along.. but if you do a speed up via properties/playback rate or a velocity envelope then "oh no" you must render it and it plays back choppy? Anyone have any advice on settings to make sure are right for best playback rate (preview wise)... I know it's largely (mostly) a cpu thing... just wondering if I'm missing something or click something wrong.

July 25th, 2006, 05:13 PM	#343
Ryan King New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mobile,al Posts: 12	I GOT IT WORKING!! it seems you can't play a uncompressed avi from swish (you have to use a codec) in vegas, and the ones I was re-dumping through converters where not allowing me to render it in vegas although it would play.. to make a logn story short, I dump uncompressed avi out of swish, then us RAD VideoTools (a free converter) to re-dump as uncompressed again..never loose quality and vegas sems to play and render it fine.

July 26th, 2006, 01:13 AM	#344
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	buying used vegas If I buy a second hand copy of vegas is the license transferrable? Am I breaking the rules and being naughty? I once bought a second hand version for Film FX and it easily transferred and i even got tech support from the manufacturer.

July 26th, 2006, 02:58 AM	#345
Mark Bryant Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bath, England Posts: 119	Yes, you are allowed to buy/sell the software. See the EULA: http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/support/eula.asp Specifically: 5. ASSIGNMENT. You may assign the Software to a third party only if they agree to be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement. If you assign the Software, your rights under this Agreement will terminate immediately and you must: (a) cease all use of the Software, (b) permanently delete all copies of the Software from the computer on which it has been installed, and (c) deliver the original Software to the transferee, You may not retain the original or any copies of the Software.