Vegas Video discussions from 2006 (Q3Q4)

Michael Pace · August 18th, 2006, 08:17 AM

another data pt:

last year i rendered my 101-minute feature as an mpeg2 for DVD using Vegas 5. The movie was desaturated to black and white, gaussian blur across the board, and had several panned/cropped clips. On the old 950 MHz Athlon PC the render took 8 days-- yes it was nerve-wracking waiting a week for the thing to finish cooking, checking every few hours, waiting for a crash. But when it was done the results were perfect. No crash, no stalls, no errors. Just slow solid quality performance.

The same movie rendered as an AVI on the same PC took about 15 hours to render, w/ a file size of upper-20-something gigs IIRC.

good luck,

MRP

Rey Ortega · August 18th, 2006, 10:52 AM

Vital Stream is a world wide flash content streaming service. They are one of the best so I would expect it to be a little more expensive. If you go to the Adobe/Macromedia website, there's a link for flash streaming services.

www.macromedia.com -> This will take you to Adobe's macromedia site.

Rey Ortega

Jesse Redman · August 18th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Thanks for the replys.

Has anyone else rendered a feature length video and can share their experience?

I now expect the render to take between 13 and 14 hours. It has taken about 10 and a half hours so far and indicates it will take another 3 and a half hours.

ALSO, can anyone share what format they have been asked to deliver a feature length movie for distribution?

Ben Mahoney · August 18th, 2006, 12:00 PM

Thanks for the help Don. That worked but not it keeps doing it even on different projects. Maybe I'll just re-install.

Bennis Hahn · August 18th, 2006, 12:33 PM

I have done a 46 minute film. I split it up into two renders with editing/graphics/color timing on one and then audio for the other.

I did all the audio work as a separate project and rendered a .wav file from there and put that into Vegas and rendered the final .avi with sound from my editing time line. Took about 7 hours and every clip was color timed and some had Magic Bullet (about 8% of the movie).

From there I went to mpeg2 for duplication and that was pretty much real-time.

I always render to a final .avi master and then encode my .wmv and mgeg2 off that.

p4 2.8 HT PC

Jon Fairhurst · August 18th, 2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennis Hahn

I always render to a final .avi master and then encode my .wmv and mgeg2 off that.

Me too. I can then use the master to create flash video, wmv, Quicktime, whatever.

Also, I recommend selecting just a minute or two and doing a test render. You don't want to render for half a week only to learn that you forgot to set the aspect ratio correctly.

Don Bloom · August 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM

Before you do that is the drive where the clips are that aren't being seen an external drive? Sometimes the machine for whatever reason loses contact with an external drive-when that happens, if thats the case you might try cutting power to the external and rebooting that only.

Just a thought.

Don

Dennis Khaye · August 18th, 2006, 02:27 PM

Codec problem maybe? What type of file is it?

Vince Curtis · August 18th, 2006, 03:13 PM

. ..I guess NERO it is. Can I create menu based DVD's ? Is anything else differnet ? THanks

Edward Troxel · August 18th, 2006, 03:25 PM

You AUTHOR the disc in DVD Architect. You BURN the disc in Nero. So, yes you can still have the same menus because you're creating the menus in the same program you were before.

Jesse Redman · August 18th, 2006, 04:05 PM

I finished a few minutes ago: 14 hours 8 minutes for a WMV file. It was 4.5 GB.

John Lorince · August 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM

I usually just shut down and restart and that cures it. I do have a large part of my files on external drives. Maybe I need a defreg, that thing we all forget to do!

Don Bloom · August 18th, 2006, 05:51 PM

Not a codec problem just sometimes the machine or Vegas doesn't see the external drive. I have no idea why it just happens every now and then. I close the project, turn off that drive restart it open the project again and there it is in all its glory.
Must be the "drive gremlins" ;-)
Don

Chad Ream · August 19th, 2006, 07:58 AM

What about the option within Vegas to De-Interlace. I have not has much experience comparing, but have recently taken an interest in using this option.

Chad

Adi Head · August 19th, 2006, 09:26 AM

Hi. I have a Canon S80 Digital Camera that can capture video as well as still photos. Recently, I shot some video with this camera and transferred the clips to my hard drive. Then I imported the .avi files to Vegas 6. I placed the clips on the timeline and played the preview. For some reason I can only hear sound, but the preview window remains black.

I can see the visuals in the thumbnails of the clips on the timeline. But playing them, I only get a blank screen.

What could be the problem?

Thanks

August 18th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#543
Jesse Redman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 182	Update Thanks for the replys. Has anyone else rendered a feature length video and can share their experience? I now expect the render to take between 13 and 14 hours. It has taken about 10 and a half hours so far and indicates it will take another 3 and a half hours. ALSO, can anyone share what format they have been asked to deliver a feature length movie for distribution? __________________ - Jesse XL2 - Vegas - DVDA - Sound Forge - Acid Pro - Cubase SX 3

August 18th, 2006, 12:00 PM	#544
Ben Mahoney Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 48	kind of worked Thanks for the help Don. That worked but not it keeps doing it even on different projects. Maybe I'll just re-install.

August 18th, 2006, 03:25 PM	#550
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You AUTHOR the disc in DVD Architect. You BURN the disc in Nero. So, yes you can still have the same menus because you're creating the menus in the same program you were before. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

August 18th, 2006, 04:05 PM	#551
Jesse Redman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 182	Update I finished a few minutes ago: 14 hours 8 minutes for a WMV file. It was 4.5 GB. __________________ - Jesse XL2 - Vegas - DVDA - Sound Forge - Acid Pro - Cubase SX 3

August 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#552
John Lorince Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 75	This has happened to me I usually just shut down and restart and that cures it. I do have a large part of my files on external drives. Maybe I need a defreg, that thing we all forget to do! __________________ John Lorince Http://capturemotion.tv

August 18th, 2006, 08:17 AM	#541
Michael Pace Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: La Florida Posts: 68	another data pt: last year i rendered my 101-minute feature as an mpeg2 for DVD using Vegas 5. The movie was desaturated to black and white, gaussian blur across the board, and had several panned/cropped clips. On the old 950 MHz Athlon PC the render took 8 days-- yes it was nerve-wracking waiting a week for the thing to finish cooking, checking every few hours, waiting for a crash. But when it was done the results were perfect. No crash, no stalls, no errors. Just slow solid quality performance. The same movie rendered as an AVI on the same PC took about 15 hours to render, w/ a file size of upper-20-something gigs IIRC. good luck, MRP

August 18th, 2006, 10:52 AM	#542
Rey Ortega New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 15	Vital Stream is a world wide flash content streaming service. They are one of the best so I would expect it to be a little more expensive. If you go to the Adobe/Macromedia website, there's a link for flash streaming services. www.macromedia.com -> This will take you to Adobe's macromedia site. Rey Ortega

August 18th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#545
Bennis Hahn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 221	I have done a 46 minute film. I split it up into two renders with editing/graphics/color timing on one and then audio for the other. I did all the audio work as a separate project and rendered a .wav file from there and put that into Vegas and rendered the final .avi with sound from my editing time line. Took about 7 hours and every clip was color timed and some had Magic Bullet (about 8% of the movie). From there I went to mpeg2 for duplication and that was pretty much real-time. I always render to a final .avi master and then encode my .wmv and mgeg2 off that. p4 2.8 HT PC

August 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM	#547
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Before you do that is the drive where the clips are that aren't being seen an external drive? Sometimes the machine for whatever reason loses contact with an external drive-when that happens, if thats the case you might try cutting power to the external and rebooting that only. Just a thought. Don

August 18th, 2006, 02:27 PM	#548
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	Codec problem maybe? What type of file is it?

August 18th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#549
Vince Curtis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 69	. ..I guess NERO it is. Can I create menu based DVD's ? Is anything else differnet ? THanks

August 18th, 2006, 05:51 PM	#553
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Not a codec problem just sometimes the machine or Vegas doesn't see the external drive. I have no idea why it just happens every now and then. I close the project, turn off that drive restart it open the project again and there it is in all its glory. Must be the "drive gremlins" ;-) Don

August 19th, 2006, 07:58 AM	#554
Chad Ream Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 38	De-Interlace option within Vegas What about the option within Vegas to De-Interlace. I have not has much experience comparing, but have recently taken an interest in using this option. Chad

August 19th, 2006, 09:26 AM	#555
Adi Head Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 642	problem with .avi from digital camera Hi. I have a Canon S80 Digital Camera that can capture video as well as still photos. Recently, I shot some video with this camera and transferred the clips to my hard drive. Then I imported the .avi files to Vegas 6. I placed the clips on the timeline and played the preview. For some reason I can only hear sound, but the preview window remains black. I can see the visuals in the thumbnails of the clips on the timeline. But playing them, I only get a blank screen. What could be the problem? Thanks