Cavetas for interchanging projects between 8.0c and 8.1 at DVinfo.net

Ian Stark · October 6th, 2009, 12:42 AM

Edit: Sorry about typo in subject - can't change after posting!

Could someone kindly point me in the direction of any information that discusses the caveats, pitfalls, suggested workflow etc for working on a project in both 8.0c and 8.1.

I have just installed 64 bit Vista as a dual boot and having played with 8.1 (for a very short time only) so far I am impressed (not with Vista - hate it!).

My reason for needing to revert to 8.0c is plugin support (primarily for Looks).

A couple of specific questions:

1. Can I safely create a project in 8.1 and then open it in 8.0c? Should I be doing all my 8.0c work first and then going to 8.1? Does it matter?
2. Am I right in believing MB Looks simply will not install in a 64 bit OS at this time? (Looking forward to the elusive 1.2.1).
3. Is there any way to share plugins across OS's? I suspect the answer to be 'don't be so stoopid!' but you never know, there may be a way to do it (be gentle with me).
4. I will of course check this, but does anyone know if Real Video is 64-bit compatible?

Any and all guidance is welcomed!

Perrone Ford · October 6th, 2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Could someone kindly point me in the direction of any information that discusses the caveats, pitfalls, suggested workflow etc for working on a project in both 8.0c and 8.1.

I did this quite a bit before moving to Vegas 9.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

A couple of specific questions:

1. Can I safely create a project in 8.1 and then open it in 8.0c? Should I be doing all my 8.0c work first and then going to 8.1? Does it matter?

Yes, I did this a lot. Essentially, I did all my editing and so forth in 8.1, then finished the color in 8.0c for various reasons, including MB Looks.

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2. Am I right in believing MB Looks simply will not install in a 64 bit OS at this time? (Looking forward to the elusive 1.2.1).

As far as I know this is true.

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

3. Is there any way to share plugins across OS's? I suspect the answer to be 'don't be so stoopid!' but you never know, there may be a way to do it (be gentle with me).

I don't know what you mean by this. What plugins?

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Originally Posted by Ian Stark

4. I will of course check this, but does anyone know if Real Video is 64-bit compatible?

Any and all guidance is welcomed!

Realvideo seems to be a dying format. I'd doubt much more development is going to happen with it. We abandoned it long ago for things more standards based.

Edward Troxel · October 6th, 2009, 06:32 AM

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1. Can I safely create a project in 8.1 and then open it in 8.0c? Should I be doing all my 8.0c work first and then going to 8.1? Does it matter?

Yes, you can freely go between 8.1 and 8.0c. If you're going to be using the 64-bit version, I STRONGLY recommend upgrading to 9.0b for both 32 and 64 versions. The 64-bit version of 9 is MUCH better than 8.1.

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2. Am I right in believing MB Looks simply will not install in a 64 bit OS at this time? (Looking forward to the elusive 1.2.1).

No. It will install fine on a 64-bit OS but it is a 32-bit application so it will NOT run in the 64-bit version of Vegas. It WILL run in the 32-bit version of Vegas on a 64-bit OS, though.

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3. Is there any way to share plugins across OS's? I suspect the answer to be 'don't be so stoopid!' but you never know, there may be a way to do it (be gentle with me).

I agree with the other response... WHAT plugins? For example, most scripts (like Excalibur and Ultimate S) will work in both 8 and 9 - 32 and 64 bit versions. NewBlue plugins work in both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vegas. It somewhat depends on the plugin manufacturer so you'll need to be a little more precise on this question.

Ian Stark · October 6th, 2009, 07:02 AM

Perrone, Edward, thanks for your replies.

Good to know that it's a safe practice and I will take the advice and now (finally!) make the move to 9.

What I meant with the plugins question was a way to install a plugin in XP and have it accessed by Vegas in Vista (on a dual boot system) rather than having to install it twice - but with hindsight I am thinking this is a redundant question, as I guess I could simply install Vegas 32 bit in the 64 bit partition. Sorry, hadn't thought that one through.

Regarding Real Video - my mistake, I was meaning NEAT Video, not Real. I see that there is in fact a 64 bit version of Neat, which is good.

Thanks again to both for the guidance.

Edward Troxel · October 6th, 2009, 07:17 AM

Yeah, just install the 64-bit OS and then install both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Vegas. You can switch back and forth then. Although, you may find you don't need to once you get everything you need in the 64-bit version.

Jim Snow · October 6th, 2009, 12:20 PM

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2. Am I right in believing MB Looks simply will not install in a 64 bit OS at this time? (Looking forward to the elusive 1.2.1).

According to a comment in this thread by someone who called Red Giant, they were just kidding about supporting 64-bit with Vegas. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...ml#post1428592

Ian Stark · October 6th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Sigh . . .

Well, as Jeff mentioned in that thread, at least we have NewBlue!

Rick Diaz · October 11th, 2009, 06:31 PM

When 8.1 first came out I played with it a bit and found it to be faster than 8.0c. At the time, I had no problem opening up veg files originally created in 8.0c. FF a few months and suddenly when I go to open up existing veg files in 8.1 I get an error message and they won't open. Something about a mismatch. Nothing has changed as far as OS (Vista 64) or my hardware configuration. No biggie, but when I have simple projects with no plug-ins I'd prefer to use 8.1.

October 6th, 2009, 12:42 AM	#1
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Cavetas for interchanging projects between 8.0c and 8.1 Edit: Sorry about typo in subject - can't change after posting! Could someone kindly point me in the direction of any information that discusses the caveats, pitfalls, suggested workflow etc for working on a project in both 8.0c and 8.1. I have just installed 64 bit Vista as a dual boot and having played with 8.1 (for a very short time only) so far I am impressed (not with Vista - hate it!). My reason for needing to revert to 8.0c is plugin support (primarily for Looks). A couple of specific questions: 1. Can I safely create a project in 8.1 and then open it in 8.0c? Should I be doing all my 8.0c work first and then going to 8.1? Does it matter? 2. Am I right in believing MB Looks simply will not install in a 64 bit OS at this time? (Looking forward to the elusive 1.2.1). 3. Is there any way to share plugins across OS's? I suspect the answer to be 'don't be so stoopid!' but you never know, there may be a way to do it (be gentle with me). 4. I will of course check this, but does anyone know if Real Video is 64-bit compatible? Any and all guidance is welcomed! __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk Last edited by Ian Stark; October 6th, 2009 at 03:08 PM.

October 6th, 2009, 07:02 AM	#4
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Perrone, Edward, thanks for your replies. Good to know that it's a safe practice and I will take the advice and now (finally!) make the move to 9. What I meant with the plugins question was a way to install a plugin in XP and have it accessed by Vegas in Vista (on a dual boot system) rather than having to install it twice - but with hindsight I am thinking this is a redundant question, as I guess I could simply install Vegas 32 bit in the 64 bit partition. Sorry, hadn't thought that one through. Regarding Real Video - my mistake, I was meaning NEAT Video, not Real. I see that there is in fact a 64 bit version of Neat, which is good. Thanks again to both for the guidance. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

October 6th, 2009, 07:17 AM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yeah, just install the 64-bit OS and then install both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Vegas. You can switch back and forth then. Although, you may find you don't need to once you get everything you need in the 64-bit version. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

October 6th, 2009, 12:32 PM	#7
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Sigh . . . Well, as Jeff mentioned in that thread, at least we have NewBlue! __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

October 11th, 2009, 06:31 PM	#8
Rick Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 146	When 8.1 first came out I played with it a bit and found it to be faster than 8.0c. At the time, I had no problem opening up veg files originally created in 8.0c. FF a few months and suddenly when I go to open up existing veg files in 8.1 I get an error message and they won't open. Something about a mismatch. Nothing has changed as far as OS (Vista 64) or my hardware configuration. No biggie, but when I have simple projects with no plug-ins I'd prefer to use 8.1.