SD problems in Vegas 9 at DVinfo.net

Rainer Listing · March 1st, 2010, 11:18 PM

My system (i7 860, 8gig ram, Windows 7 Vegas 9.0c 64 bit) handles AVCHD like a dream. Rock solid, smooth and fast. But it won't do SD: Drops frames downloading, loaded video is choppy, or red, and/or crashes. Same thing in Platinum Pro 9 (32 bit). These are normal clips, they download with no problems via firewire through Windows live, they play back smoothly in Windows Media Player and Virtualdub doesn't see anything wrong with them. Anyone with the same problem or suggestions?

Rainer Listing · March 2nd, 2010, 03:16 AM

Update: If I resize to square pixels in vdub and no compression, everything runs smoothly. But that is somewhat tedious and takes up a lot of space. (And forgot to mention Geforce GT240 graphics) Any suggestions?

Edward Troxel · March 2nd, 2010, 07:52 AM

What if you capture straight DV-AVI through Vegas? I'd use the "external" capture in Vegas to capture SD via firewire.

What format is Windows Live actually saving as? You can use GSpot to determine the codec being used.

Rainer Listing · March 2nd, 2010, 03:45 PM

Hi Edward, thanks for your response. External or internal makes no difference. The Live codec is Microsoft dv video 1 (dvsd DVC/DV Video in GSpot). My current working workaround is converting to 3:4 PAR (compressed) via VirtualDub and resizing to 16:9 in Vegas.

Edward Troxel · March 2nd, 2010, 08:30 PM

External capture is for SD. Internal capture is for HD (so it DOES make a difference). If you're capturing SD, I'd try with Vegas' DV capture program or Scenalyzer Live. I'd want to start with straight DV and not have to go through extra gyrations of creating new files.

Rainer Listing · March 2nd, 2010, 10:21 PM

Hi Edward, thanks again, sorry, I wasn't clear. I tried Vegas DV capture also. As you suggested, it seems to be a codec issue: the footage comes dvsd compressed from the camera and I note Microsoft has said this codec is obselete, not sure of the details but it may mean its not handled totally well in either Windows 7 or 64bit. Decompressed (if you can handle the storage) or recompressed with Microsoft video 1 (if you can handle the possible slight quality hit; I really haven't noticed any) deals with the problem. Checking the "adjust source media to match project.." takes care of the PAR. A minor nuisance overall, I won't be doing much SD in future and would have hated to go back to XP.

March 1st, 2010, 11:18 PM	#1
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	SD problems in Vegas 9 My system (i7 860, 8gig ram, Windows 7 Vegas 9.0c 64 bit) handles AVCHD like a dream. Rock solid, smooth and fast. But it won't do SD: Drops frames downloading, loaded video is choppy, or red, and/or crashes. Same thing in Platinum Pro 9 (32 bit). These are normal clips, they download with no problems via firewire through Windows live, they play back smoothly in Windows Media Player and Virtualdub doesn't see anything wrong with them. Anyone with the same problem or suggestions?

March 2nd, 2010, 07:52 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	What if you capture straight DV-AVI through Vegas? I'd use the "external" capture in Vegas to capture SD via firewire. What format is Windows Live actually saving as? You can use GSpot to determine the codec being used. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 2nd, 2010, 08:30 PM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	External capture is for SD. Internal capture is for HD (so it DOES make a difference). If you're capturing SD, I'd try with Vegas' DV capture program or Scenalyzer Live. I'd want to start with straight DV and not have to go through extra gyrations of creating new files. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

March 2nd, 2010, 03:16 AM	#2
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Update: If I resize to square pixels in vdub and no compression, everything runs smoothly. But that is somewhat tedious and takes up a lot of space. (And forgot to mention Geforce GT240 graphics) Any suggestions?

March 2nd, 2010, 03:45 PM	#4
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Hi Edward, thanks for your response. External or internal makes no difference. The Live codec is Microsoft dv video 1 (dvsd DVC/DV Video in GSpot). My current working workaround is converting to 3:4 PAR (compressed) via VirtualDub and resizing to 16:9 in Vegas.

March 2nd, 2010, 10:21 PM	#6
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Hi Edward, thanks again, sorry, I wasn't clear. I tried Vegas DV capture also. As you suggested, it seems to be a codec issue: the footage comes dvsd compressed from the camera and I note Microsoft has said this codec is obselete, not sure of the details but it may mean its not handled totally well in either Windows 7 or 64bit. Decompressed (if you can handle the storage) or recompressed with Microsoft video 1 (if you can handle the possible slight quality hit; I really haven't noticed any) deals with the problem. Checking the "adjust source media to match project.." takes care of the PAR. A minor nuisance overall, I won't be doing much SD in future and would have hated to go back to XP.