what's the best format to convert Mp4 to, for use in vegas8) at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

What Happens in Vegas...
...stays in Vegas! This PC-based editing app is a safe bet with these tips.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 27th, 2010, 04:37 AM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 410
what's the best format to convert Mp4 to, for use in vegas8)

It's quite rare, but sometimes I need to use Mp4 (for example shot with my iPhone 4 in 720) (I use vegas 8.c) so they wouldn't work.

obviously when using the ex1 I can use the clip browser to transcode to mxf, but when I have other mp4s from other sources, what should I convert them to?
which tool should I use?
Federico Perale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 27th, 2010, 07:14 AM   #2
Sponsor: JET DV
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 7,873
I have a GoPro camera that shoots MP4 files - they load just fine into Vegas Pro 9.
__________________
Edward Troxel [SCVU]
JETDV Scripts/Excalibur/Newsletters
Edward Troxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 27th, 2010, 07:43 AM   #3
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Windsor, ON Canada
Posts: 2,765
Edward is correct in that Pro 9 had fixes for the ongoing QuickTime issues that regularly plague any non-Mac users, Vegas included.
Some users found that rolling back to QuickTime 7.6.4 (or even earlier) resolved their issues but that doesn't seem to be the case with newer devices such as iPhones :(
Mike Kujbida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 27th, 2010, 07:47 AM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London
Posts: 410
yes I tried that route, problem is if you "downgrade" quicktime the latest Itunes doesn't work so : )

but my question was if I can trancode to another format my mp4 for use in Vegas 8, and if so which one you would use

the problem has been solved in Vegas 9 but I want to stick with 8c
Federico Perale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 28th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #5
Trustee
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Santa Clara, CA
Posts: 1,104
If you need to transcode, you should use a near lossless file format such as Cineform. Cineform is an intermediate codec that is designed to not hurt the video quality. Delivery formats are inappropriate for intermediate transcoding for editing purposes. They create too many compression artifacts.
Jim Snow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 28th, 2010, 05:19 PM   #6
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Central Coast Australia
Posts: 1,008
I have to do this all the time, I'm currently working on a clip where I have to use low quality portions of Youtube footage that is in low res MP4 and even FLV, the quality is hideous, I cant afford to make it any worse.
I have Cineform which I would normally use, but until I got that I would render to Lagarith and edit with that, you lose nothing, what you put out is as good as you got.
Lagarith is a bit harder on the timeline preview, you just have Ram preview alot if you have an older machine.
__________________
http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo
Gerald Webb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 28th, 2010, 08:19 PM   #7
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,290
Cineform is the only one that's worked for me. All the others, like Avid or Matrox either give error messages or are stuttery in preview.
Brian Luce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Newberg, Oregon
Posts: 440
Quote:
Originally Posted by Federico Perale View Post
yes I tried that route, problem is if you "downgrade" quicktime the latest Itunes doesn't work so : )

but my question was if I can trancode to another format my mp4 for use in Vegas 8, and if so which one you would use

the problem has been solved in Vegas 9 but I want to stick with 8c

I think iTunes is so bad, it should be considered malware. I've used MP4's in all versions of Vegas with no problems. (well, the three I've used are Vegas 7, 8, 9). I have the K-lite codec pack installed, along with the "quicktime alternative" driver. That way I don't have to taint my computer with Apple software.

But, if you insist on converting the file, just pick one. AVI, MPG, it shouldn't really matter.
Jeremiah Rickert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #9
Sponsor: JET DV
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 7,873
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremiah Rickert View Post
I have the K-lite codec pack installed,
Most people also recommend against installing codec packs as well.
__________________
Edward Troxel [SCVU]
JETDV Scripts/Excalibur/Newsletters
Edward Troxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30th, 2010, 06:22 PM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Newberg, Oregon
Posts: 440
I guess I'm not "most people" hehe.
Jeremiah Rickert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 31st, 2010, 08:59 AM   #11
Sponsor: JET DV
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 7,873
Generally speaking, it's best to only install the few specific codecs you need. By installing a codec pack, some people have literally been unable to load many formats they previously WERE able to load. They can definitely be problematic in some cases.

All I'm saying is - think twice before installing a codec pack and have a means of rolling back your system if it causes problems. And also be aware that some codec packs have included spyware in the past. This may not be the case today but also causes one to be leery.
__________________
Edward Troxel [SCVU]
JETDV Scripts/Excalibur/Newsletters
Edward Troxel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 5th, 2010, 04:28 AM   #12
Trustee
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: spain
Posts: 1,169
Ever tryed TMPENG?
Works very very well
Marcus Martell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 7th, 2010, 01:37 PM   #13
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Encinitas California
Posts: 121
"All I'm saying is - think twice before installing a codec pack"

Right! And ffmpg killed the ability of my Camtasia to create flash files. Worse yet, it wouldn't uninstall - I had to rename some files that ffmpg had installed in order to kill it.
Larry Reavis is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Windows / PC Post Production Solutions > What Happens in Vegas...

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:28 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network