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Federico Perale August 29th, 2011 05:38 PM

split screen (link inside)
 
anyone knows how to make this kind of split screen effect, with transitions and screens moving around?
can this be even done with Vegas, or do you need Premiere or After Effects?
Intersections - Diptych (Split Screen) London - YouTube

Leslie Wand August 29th, 2011 05:46 PM

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don't see any problem doing this sort of stuff in vegas - but you do need to be organised and plan exactly what / where / when things are going to happen.

i know it's a vague answer, but there isn't anything in the clip that would require a third-party fx.

Phil Gosselin August 29th, 2011 05:46 PM

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Sure that can be done in Vegas. You just need to play with Track Motion. I recommend that you search the web for tutorial that refers to that.

As for the final shot, which is the "video wall", in my experience After Effects would be a lot simpler to use in order to achieve that. Unless of course somebody here knows about a tutorial for Vegas that pertain to this particular effect. Best of luck!

Justin Molush August 29th, 2011 06:08 PM

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These sort of things can be done in any NLE if you have the time to build everything up... I personally would use nested sequences... each "frame" that you are going between or set of images that you are moving between, would be its own, separate sequence/comp/whatever its called in vegas (I dont use vegas). Crop clips or make a .png with all uniform black space so you dont have to make it absolutely perfect in your NLE, layer it over you video, and crop the edges back under the black space. Its faster to make a perfect layout in photoshop than count pixels in video software.

After effects makes this pretty simple as well... I personally would use the same workflow, but instead you could also make 1 GIGANTIC video wall, (5000x5000+) and just slide the entire comp around in another comp... no worry about cameras or anything as it is just moving on the XY axis. Then retime, and move clips around as needed in the gigantic comp once you have your movement timing down in the other one.

Federico Perale August 30th, 2011 05:19 AM

Re: split screen (link inside)
 
thanks actually the final "video wall" interests me less...
I am willing to replicate the "moving split screens"....something I have seen in a few movies and has always caught my imagination (I think it was used heavily in Ocean's 11,12 etc etc)

Don Bloom August 30th, 2011 05:25 AM

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Track motion, pan-crop, a little patience, a few key frames and BAM! No AE needed.

AAMOF, I don'e stuff like this for a couple of corporate clients over the last few years. All inside Vegas.
Have a plan as to what you want the finished product to look like,have patience, don't be afraid! ;-)

Go for it!

Federico Perale August 30th, 2011 05:33 AM

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thanks guys... do you think there is a tutorial that shows how to achieve this effect?

Don Bloom August 30th, 2011 09:10 AM

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did you check for tutorials on You Tube? There might be something there

David Jimerson August 30th, 2011 10:47 AM

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It's all in the planning. The actual doing really isn't all that hard.

Mike Kujbida August 30th, 2011 12:01 PM

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Make the overlays in Photoshop or whatever paint program you use.
Make one screen with a cross, save it and then start erasing portions of it to give you 6 others.
There are only 9 of them and they're very similar so this is really easy to do.
Save them as PNG, PSD or TGA to keep the alpha channel.
Drop the required one on the top video track and the necessary number of events on separate tracks underneath.
Use Pan/Crop and/or Track Motion to crop/position the shots.
The black overly will hide edges so you don't have to be super precise.
Save each one as a veg file.
When you're done, start a new project, bring each veg file in and use a slide transition to go from event to event.
As others have noted, it's all in the planning so have some fun with it.

Brian Wagner August 30th, 2011 05:24 PM

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Federico, I made a sample video showing how:

Sony Vegas Example - Multi-picture screen with Nested Projects - YouTube

Basically you use Track Motion to get the videos the size you want. In my example I had three separate projects, for each sequence. Then the one trick about Vegas is nesting those projects in another project to add transitions like Push, etc.

I don't know if other NLEs do nesting like this. It seems cumbersome at first. But it can be really useful, once you get into the mindset of the workflow. Of course, nesting allows you to do lots of other things too. Time compress a project with time compression, to get footage moving faster than otherwise possible in one project.

Federico Perale August 31st, 2011 03:16 AM

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thanks so much Brian.
watching it now

can I ask you why you use the cookie cutter just on the first of the 3 projects, and then media generators to create a black background on the 2nd?


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