Your personal opinion on Vegas 11

Rob Wood · March 21st, 2012, 11:03 AM

in general, i'd suggest using Good rather than Best for preview/rendering/etc.

(from the manual)
"Good uses bilinear scaling without integration, while Best uses bicubic scaling with integration.
If you're using high-resolution stills (or video) that will be scaled down to the final output size, choosing Best can prevent artifacts.

Unless you have specific performance problems, choose Good. Choosing Best can dramatically increase rendering times."

David Jimerson · March 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM

Well, depends on what you're doing it for.

If it's just playing around, then it doesn't matter.

If it's for a client or otherwise for pay, unless you have a really, really tight deadline, a little extra render time is worth it.

Besides, that part of the manual was written quite a while and numerous generations of CPUs ago. I can't imagine the render time difference would be much these days.

Jeff Harper · March 21st, 2012, 01:58 PM

Hi Rob, I was talking not about Best in project properties but for the preview windows setting.

As far as project settings using Best, which I think you're talking about, I remember using Best used to be recommended for stills mostly, but nowadays I've seen it recommended by so many people lately I just started using it all the time. As David says, I rendered both ways yesterday with almost no difference in speed, which I know makes no sense, but I think my CPU is maxed out so it's about the same both ways. Don't know if it's better or not, to be hones, it works fine.

Best used to really take a whole lot longer, but not so much anymore, at least for me.

Mike Burgess · March 22nd, 2012, 04:26 PM

I have had the free trial for the last three weeks, and I pretty much like it. As I get used to it, I get more and more proficient, and that is saying something for old fart like me. The one area that I am disappointed is that I cannot product an AVCHD DVD with this program.

Mike

Jorma Nippala · March 22nd, 2012, 04:51 PM

Mike,
true, but if you 'render image only' in Vegas (Tools / Burn disc) or 'prepare' to a folder in DVDA, you can take those into a free software like ImgBurn and burn the AVCHD disc there. I believe you have the Platinum version 11.

Tom Bostick · March 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM

overall i like it alot, my render times to .mp4 files are absolutely amazing!

my one gripe is that i can't make any new render profiles with v11 or it wont render

Graham Bernard · March 23rd, 2012, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Parrish

I would like to ask the community for their personal opinion on Vegas 11, pro's, cons.

GPU acceleration a plus for you ?
Render times good ?

Thanks

I have a question to ask you Don, why?

Do you have VP11? Or are you thinking of upgrading?

Grazie

Leslie Wand · March 24th, 2012, 12:31 AM

why not simply dl the trial and give it a whirl on YOUR pc.

my opinion is that the latest v11 is looking good on MY system.

Mike Burgess · March 26th, 2012, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorma Nippala

Mike,
true, but if you 'render image only' in Vegas (Tools / Burn disc) or 'prepare' to a folder in DVDA, you can take those into a free software like ImgBurn and burn the AVCHD disc there. I believe you have the Platinum version 11.

Jorma, can you give me a detailed sequence, ie. step by step instruction, on how to do this?
Thanks.
Mike

Jorma Nippala · March 26th, 2012, 05:34 AM

Mike,
check my post in the other thread and follow the steps given there. You should be able to get by :)

Adrian Lepki · March 28th, 2012, 07:38 AM

I've been using Vegas since v.6. I like the Vegas tools and 'ergonomics'. After upgrading to v.11 and a new system, I'm dissatisfied with the preview quality - both in preview window and on external device (2nd monitor). Choppiness and image tearing are unacceptable.

For comparison I installed a trial version of Premiere CS5.5, loaded the same video files and see no problems with their preview. More here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...r-cs5-5-a.html

Steven Reid · March 28th, 2012, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Lepki

I've been using Vegas since v.6. I like the Vegas tools and 'ergonomics'. After upgrading to v.11 and a new system, I'm dissatisfied with the preview quality - both in preview window and on external device (2nd monitor). Choppiness and image tearing are unacceptable.

For comparison I installed a trial version of Premiere CS5.5, loaded the same video files and see no problems with their preview. More here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...r-cs5-5-a.html

It is probably cold comfort to realize that GPU can have a dramatic impact. I know you have a Quadro 4000. I just upgraded to an overclocked GTX580 Classified Ultra that absolutely screams. With the GPU enabled, I can preview Cineform avi's (24p) on the timeline at Best/Full, even when kicking the preview over to a secondary 30" display. Full frame rate, smooth as butter, not one hiccup. Perhaps in your case the Quadro 4000 is not playing well with Vegas.

Adrian Lepki · March 28th, 2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Reid

It is probably cold comfort to realize that GPU can have a dramatic impact. I know you have a Quadro 4000. I just upgraded to an overclocked GTX580 Classified Ultra that absolutely screams. With the GPU enabled, I can preview Cineform avi's (24p) on the timeline at Best/Full, even when kicking the preview over to a secondary 30" display. Full frame rate, smooth as butter, not one hiccup. Perhaps in your case the Quadro 4000 is not playing well with Vegas.

I think it's time for me to seriously consider changing the graphic card. Somebody already advised a GTX for Vegas in the other thread.
My choice of Quadro 4000 was based on several articles, which I guess were kind of misleading.

Dale Guthormsen · March 28th, 2012, 04:26 PM

Good afternoon,

I updated to version 11 this morning.

I must say this is the most worthy update \i have seen sense 8 pro!!

I layed down 20 minutes of hd, did serious color grading, pan and crop and some effects. I ran the preview window at best full screen and it ran at full rate all the time.!!!

I only had one glitch with a new blue effect that caused the grey non response screen. I tried a bit of everything and must say sony did a good job this time!!

I have not run it on my windows seven lap top yet but will give that a go tomarrow.

will also load a long format video just for a look see as well.

I am running my dell xps work station I7 2.67 gh and 10 gigs of ram, do not even know what my card is.

Jeff Harper · March 28th, 2012, 10:33 PM

I'm finding out I cannot render to Bluray 1080 60i without serious issues, it's a huge pain. I have to render out progressive and I'm not a happy camper at all.

March 21st, 2012, 11:03 AM	#16
Rob Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 146	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 in general, i'd suggest using Good rather than Best for preview/rendering/etc. (from the manual) "Good uses bilinear scaling without integration, while Best uses bicubic scaling with integration. If you're using high-resolution stills (or video) that will be scaled down to the final output size, choosing Best can prevent artifacts. Unless you have specific performance problems, choose Good. Choosing Best can dramatically increase rendering times."

March 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM	#17
David Jimerson Jubal 28 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 872	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 Well, depends on what you're doing it for. If it's just playing around, then it doesn't matter. If it's for a client or otherwise for pay, unless you have a really, really tight deadline, a little extra render time is worth it. Besides, that part of the manual was written quite a while and numerous generations of CPUs ago. I can't imagine the render time difference would be much these days. __________________ www.wrightsvillebeachstudios.com

March 21st, 2012, 01:58 PM	#18
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 Hi Rob, I was talking not about Best in project properties but for the preview windows setting. As far as project settings using Best, which I think you're talking about, I remember using Best used to be recommended for stills mostly, but nowadays I've seen it recommended by so many people lately I just started using it all the time. As David says, I rendered both ways yesterday with almost no difference in speed, which I know makes no sense, but I think my CPU is maxed out so it's about the same both ways. Don't know if it's better or not, to be hones, it works fine. Best used to really take a whole lot longer, but not so much anymore, at least for me.

March 22nd, 2012, 04:26 PM	#19
Mike Burgess Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Traverse City, Michigan Posts: 416	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 I have had the free trial for the last three weeks, and I pretty much like it. As I get used to it, I get more and more proficient, and that is saying something for old fart like me. The one area that I am disappointed is that I cannot product an AVCHD DVD with this program. Mike

March 22nd, 2012, 04:51 PM	#20
Jorma Nippala Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 52	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 Mike, true, but if you 'render image only' in Vegas (Tools / Burn disc) or 'prepare' to a folder in DVDA, you can take those into a free software like ImgBurn and burn the AVCHD disc there. I believe you have the Platinum version 11. Last edited by Jorma Nippala; March 22nd, 2012 at 05:47 PM.

March 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM	#21
Tom Bostick Major Player Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Austin TX Posts: 292	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 overall i like it alot, my render times to .mp4 files are absolutely amazing! my one gripe is that i can't make any new render profiles with v11 or it wont render

March 24th, 2012, 12:31 AM	#23
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 why not simply dl the trial and give it a whirl on YOUR pc. my opinion is that the latest v11 is looking good on MY system. __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

March 26th, 2012, 05:34 AM	#25
Jorma Nippala Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Finland Posts: 52	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 Mike, check my post in the other thread and follow the steps given there. You should be able to get by :)

March 28th, 2012, 07:38 AM	#26
Adrian Lepki Regular Crew Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 53	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 I've been using Vegas since v.6. I like the Vegas tools and 'ergonomics'. After upgrading to v.11 and a new system, I'm dissatisfied with the preview quality - both in preview window and on external device (2nd monitor). Choppiness and image tearing are unacceptable. For comparison I installed a trial version of Premiere CS5.5, loaded the same video files and see no problems with their preview. More here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-hap...r-cs5-5-a.html __________________ from Super 8 & film splicer to TM900/X920 & Vegas 12 http://vimeo.com/user10818624/videos/

March 28th, 2012, 04:26 PM	#29
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 Good afternoon, I updated to version 11 this morning. I must say this is the most worthy update \i have seen sense 8 pro!! I layed down 20 minutes of hd, did serious color grading, pan and crop and some effects. I ran the preview window at best full screen and it ran at full rate all the time.!!! I only had one glitch with a new blue effect that caused the grey non response screen. I tried a bit of everything and must say sony did a good job this time!! I have not run it on my windows seven lap top yet but will give that a go tomarrow. will also load a long format video just for a look see as well. I am running my dell xps work station I7 2.67 gh and 10 gigs of ram, do not even know what my card is. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

March 28th, 2012, 10:33 PM	#30
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Your personal opinion on Vegas 11 I'm finding out I cannot render to Bluray 1080 60i without serious issues, it's a huge pain. I have to render out progressive and I'm not a happy camper at all.