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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #1
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This is one impressive looking release.
Lets hope they get it right the first time.

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Old September 7th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #2
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In my memory, only version 7 seemed pretty close to "right" the first time. After that it's been rough ever since.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #3
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Smart proxy seems nice, but I will still complain about it. Edius does not need to create proxies and has amazing timeline performance with original files. Why can't Vegas? This irritates the heck out of me.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #4
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If this thing isn't a bug-fest it will be amazing.
When is Fall? Same as our Aussie Spring?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #5
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what about fixing 11 first!?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #6
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You know, I have been using Vegas since Vegas 7, and I have never had any horrible experiences with it. I keep hearing horror stories from the same few people, and I think it really has to do with an out of ordinary hardware configuration. I am running a pretty basic Dell machine, and have two external esata drive, one USB 3 drive and 2 USB 2 drives, along with two internal esata connected, and I just get pretty good results working from anywhere.

Now about 12. I have been lucky enough to beta test 12, and I find some interesting features. I hope I don't get bounced as a future tester by reporting this, but the feature advertized as Color Match seems to be pretty cool. In experimenting with it, I went to a page that had some stills from the Godfather, captured one of them, and brought it into the Color Match program, and assigned that picture to be color matched, and low and behold, my clip had a Godfather look about it. It was actually quite interesting and with a little more testing may be a viable tool to start the grading process.

This film is one I did with Vegas 12 and my VG20 for the DVChallenge here at DVInfo:

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Old September 7th, 2012, 07:02 PM   #7
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Vegas' biggest weakness is with non-native codecs.

The "internet crowd" usually has tons of Vegas horror stories because of that, combined with using too many render threads and incorrect dynamic RAM settings.

On the other hand, ProRes projects are a nightmare in Vegas too. Black frames EVERYWHERE.

My only gripe with recent versions of Vegas are that it doesn't support XDCAM EX folders with spanned clips without crashing, and working in AVC then adding MXF to the project will instantly cause a crash under certain circumstances.

I like that starting in version 10 that it natively supports XDCAM EX MP4s, but this can cause uneducated people to only copy those files and lose the contents of the BPAV folder. (that's also true of P2, I guess)
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Old September 7th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #8
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Does this mean that I will be able to finally edit in Vegas and then be able to pull it into FCP, Premier, or After Affects?
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Old September 7th, 2012, 08:01 PM   #9
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I'm on the beta, and all I will say is that it's not ready for release as of today.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #11
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what about fixing 11 first!?
A sign of our throw away society.... Throw it away and get a new one.
After vers 11 came out I dont think they fixed anything in 10 did they?
Did you ever give Premiere a go Leslie? What was the change-over like, if made ?
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On the other hand, ProRes projects are a nightmare in Vegas too. Black frames EVERYWHERE.
Jack, I haven't seen this. I have dragged in a few ProRes files some up to 90 min in length and never had any black frames. Just a thought, we have always rendered to Prores 422 HQ 10bit to avoid the Mac-Windows gamma shift. See post 6 of this thread-
Codecs of 2011 - Prores Vs Cineform Vs DNxHD
I dont know if your black frames may be attributed to this or not, but I haven't seen them.

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Does this mean that I will be able to finally edit in Vegas and then be able to pull it into FCP, Premier, or After Affects?
According to the trailer, Yes we can! For me this is absolute gold. Thank you Sony
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Old September 8th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #12
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I wished I could install Vegas 12 on iMac.Adobe has introduced the new Premiere Pro for iMac.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 06:50 PM   #13
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hi gerald,

well i have cs6 pb on my edit pc. love the new ps, but after a couple of bouts with ppro i really think if i'm going to have to learn a new nle it'd be more likely edius, which, from both reports and a little hands on, looks to be everything a nle should be in terms of playback and reliability, though it too is rather clunky and old fashioned in it's ui.

i'll wait to see what's said about 12 when it's released, try to forget the disaster that was 11, but i think, unless scs gets it right straight off with 12, they've lost a once loyal customer....
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Old September 8th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #14
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed too.
It seems like the odd numbered releases have been "somewhat " problematic (i.e. Pro 9 and 11) while the even numbered ones (Pro 8 and 10) always worked great for me.
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Old September 8th, 2012, 10:49 PM   #15
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Could always go to Lightworks. I've played with that one a bit, but its seems to based on old style editing processes where you physically hung up chunks of the film in bin in your edit room. Terminology seems to be related to that level of thinking.... a place where many modern editors have never been.

I invested in CS5 last year, thinking I am going to need it at some point, but Vegas keeps doing whatever I need.
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