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Old June 28th, 2015, 10:17 AM   #1
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So after learning that my My specs are i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07ghz 12 gb of ram and my video card is a GeForce GTX 460 with vegas 10 is no longer up to the task of editing HD without waiting forever for my render, I've decided it's time to rebuild. Certainly I could spend 4000k on a mac pro, but not this year. So this is what I've come up with. I only build out of necessity, so I don't keep up with the latest and greatest. But I have to do something about my crazy slow renders.

Fire away, I'd appreciate any input.

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Old June 28th, 2015, 10:55 AM   #2
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No drives included in your list.

SSD drives have really come of age, quite affordable. I would use at least a 500GB if not 1TB SSD as my system drive. Oh my does my SSD-based system come off standby and load programs FAST!!!

Don't know what your volume of work and archive needs are, but I've come to rely on bare HDs thrown into a dock, either internal or external to the computer. Lots of bare 2TB drives and a couple portable USB drives round out the fleet here.

I wish I knew more about your video card choice - I just haven't kept up with what cards actually work with Vegas' GPU acceleration. But I'd want to be sure about that in a new build.

550w power supply seems pretty minimal; have you used one of the online power supply calculators? You have to think about all those USB-powered peripherals, as well as internal drives, the MOBO, and a thirsty processor. This is a place you don't want to scrimp. The last build I did was a 750 or 850w, such a power supply isn't going to drink more electricity than the devices demand of it, to my thinking planning for a little extra here seems like a good idea.
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Old June 28th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #3
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Hey Seth,

I had a 1000 watt ps I was going to switch out, but the SSD is a good idea. Right now I'm trying to come to grips with the watercooling I'll need. Since this thing is costing me so much, I wanna get the parts right. Also trying to figure out optimal ram for the mb.

As for the video card, I've been reading like crazy, might reach out to Sony if I can find my way through their support maze to actually ask them.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 08:49 AM   #4
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I personally avoid Rosewill PSUs, I like OCZ for the value and I stick with a minimum of 1K. You can't have too much, and I like having headroom.

PSU issues are among the most difficult to figure out and I really do not like skimping on that part.

Like GSkill RAM a lot. Good luck with your build.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #5
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Thanks guys, I made some adjustments after the feedback, the only thing I hope I don't regret is going with 16gb of ram vs 32gb, but I can always fix that.
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Old June 29th, 2015, 01:40 PM   #6
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Thanks guys, I made some adjustments after the feedback, the only thing I hope I don't regret is going with 16gb of ram vs 32gb, but I can always fix that.
Well, as long as you don't choose something that is capped at 16GB to mount...

I think you will, but as long as you buy (or are reusing) RAM that you can simply add to instead of replacing, its not wasted money. My understanding is that the RAM is most important for the NLE's preview window. 24-32GB recommended everywhere I look.
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Old June 30th, 2015, 09:54 AM   #7
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Robert, RE: Vegas I thought that RAM is most important for multitasking, not Vegas so much, and my understanding is that CPU speed is single most important thing for video preview speed in Vegas. For renderinig it's # of cores + CPU speed.

I personally can't imagine 16GB of RAM it's so barebones. It affects thumbnail preview speed and so many Windows operations. I find my 32GB is the minimum I could live with.
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Old July 1st, 2015, 12:27 AM   #8
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I've been wrestling with this same dilemma.

Why did you choose that particular R9 290X video card? The reviews for the major cards are all so mixed. Newegg people seem to RMA them a *lot*. I haven't found a card yet that didn't have some poor reviews (even when you filter by verified owners)
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:23 AM   #9
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Hey Jeremiah,

I got that recommendation for the video card off a guy on another forum, but who's well respected in the business. I agree, video card specs for vegas is like playing the lottery, which is something I find insulting from Sony, they should give us the gospel like 99% of other software companies.
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Old July 2nd, 2015, 12:24 AM   #10
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Well, as long as you don't choose something that is capped at 16GB to mount...

I think you will, but as long as you buy (or are reusing) RAM that you can simply add to instead of replacing, its not wasted money. My understanding is that the RAM is most important for the NLE's preview window. 24-32GB recommended everywhere I look.
Hey Robert,

I can add another set of four ram sticks. Right now, my render times are horrendous, so I can always through more ram if needed.
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Old July 4th, 2015, 02:53 PM   #11
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Hey Jeremiah,

I got that recommendation for the video card off a guy on another forum, but who's well respected in the business. I agree, video card specs for vegas is like playing the lottery, which is something I find insulting from Sony, they should give us the gospel like 99% of other software companies.
For sure. I used PC Parts Picker to design a system and it ended up $1900. It's funny, every time I have decided to build a top of the line system, it's always in the same price range.

At least everyone agrees on that R9 290X chipset. Just finding the right variation. The next trick is trying to figure out if the case is big enough for those huge video cards.
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Old July 4th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #12
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For sure. I used PC Parts Picker to design a system and it ended up $1900. It's funny, every time I have decided to build a top of the line system, it's always in the same price range.

At least everyone agrees on that R9 290X chipset. Just finding the right variation. The next trick is trying to figure out if the case is big enough for those huge video cards.
I put it together, and yes, the video card is the size of a 70s Cadillac. A few minor hiccups on the case, but I think I can work around them. One was my ICY Dock three bay would fit, because the case has metal lips inside, don't really feel like filing them down.
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Old July 4th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #13
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Robert, RE: Vegas I thought that RAM is most important for multitasking, not Vegas so much, and my understanding is that CPU speed is single most important thing for video preview speed in Vegas. For renderinig it's # of cores + CPU speed.

I personally can't imagine 16GB of RAM it's so barebones. It affects thumbnail preview speed and so many Windows operations. I find my 32GB is the minimum I could live with.


You win Jeff, ordered the other four sticks to bump to 32
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Old July 7th, 2015, 12:34 PM   #14
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Steven, please post back when you've had a chance to put the video card through its paces. Does it work with Vegas GPU rendering, are there perceivable improvements in rendering time, what formats do you render to?

Good luck with the new box!
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Robert, RE: Vegas I thought that RAM is most important for multitasking, not Vegas so much, and my understanding is that CPU speed is single most important thing for video preview speed in Vegas. For renderinig it's # of cores + CPU speed.

I personally can't imagine 16GB of RAM it's so barebones. It affects thumbnail preview speed and so many Windows operations. I find my 32GB is the minimum I could live with.
Hey Jeff,

So far so good, even with the 16 gb of ram. The case I ordered is pretty huge. The watercooler and case, both by Corsair, were tricky to match because they over looked (their words) that the screws were too short. lol. Other than that not too many hiccups. The speeds are so much better. I rendered that same 3 minute file in 6 minutes that took me over an hour and half the other day. I haven't tweaked anything except the bios preset for video/gaming. The machine is much quieter. I suppose I should have rebuilt last year.
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