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Old September 20th, 2015, 05:41 AM   #61
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Also, Karl, what plugins are you using?
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Old September 20th, 2015, 08:16 AM   #62
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Thank you for the help

No plug-ins, so far as I can see

Here is an extract from Belarc Advisor re my configuration.

Windows 10 Professional (x64) (build 10240)

Processor a 3.10 gigahertz AMD FX-8120 Eight-Core
384 kilobyte primary memory cache
8192 kilobyte secondary memory cache
8192 kilobyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Hyper-threaded (8 total)

Main Circuit Board b Board: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. CM1855 Rev 1.xx

Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
UEFI: American Megatrends Inc. 0802 09/24/2012

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Sony Creative Software -
DVD Architect Pro Version 6.0 (Build 237)
ı i Sony Creative Software - Vegas Pro Version 12.0 (Build 770) 64-bit (64-bit)
ı i Sony Creative Software - Vegas Pro Version 13.0 (Build 453) 64-bit (64-bit)
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Index of file:///c:/Program Files/Sony/Vegas Pro 13.0

Name Size Last Modified
File:AAFCOAPI.dll
2963 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:52 AM
File:AjaVideoProperties.dll
29 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:44 PM
File:ApplicationRegistration.exe
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Audio Hardware Drivers
6/11/2015 4:45:44 PM
File:ControlLibrary.dll
33 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:54 PM
File:CoreGraphics.Native.dll
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File:CorePrimitives.dll
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File:CoreUI.XmlSerializers.dll
304 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:56 PM
File:CoreUI.dll
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File:CreateMinidumpx64.exe
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File:DecklinkVideoProperties.dll
27 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:48 PM
File:ErrorReport.dll
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File:ErrorReportClient.exe
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File:ErrorReportConfig.xml
2 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:20 AM
File:ErrorReportLauncher.exe
25 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:34 PM
External Control Drivers
6/11/2015 4:45:49 PM
FileIO Plug-Ins
5/22/2014 3:25:38 AM
File:FileIOProxyStubx64.dll
57 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:52 PM
File:Interop.dll
26 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:56 PM
Joystick Profiles
6/11/2015 4:45:38 PM
File:Microsoft.WindowsAPICodePack.Shell.dll
530 KB 4/16/2014 10:14:18 AM
File:Microsoft.WindowsAPICodePack.dll
104 KB 4/16/2014 10:14:18 AM
File:NGenTool.exe
20 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:18 PM
OFX Video Plug-Ins
5/22/2014 3:25:38 AM
OpenColorIO
5/22/2014 3:25:38 AM
File:OpenColorIO.dll
1660 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:02 PM
File:PRSConfig.exe
73 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:34 PM
File:ProDiscAPI.dll
14 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:50 PM
File:ProjectInterchange.dll
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File:ProjectInterchangeHelper.dll
361 KB 4/29/2014 2:37:44 PM
Readme
6/11/2015 4:45:39 PM
File:Release-x64.fio2007-config
2 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:52 AM
Script Menu
6/11/2015 4:45:38 PM
File:SfVstProxyStubx64.dll
22 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:36 PM
File:Sony - Vegas Pro 12 -- ShuttlePRO v2.pref
12 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:54 AM
File:Sony - Vegas Pro 12 -- ShuttlePRO.pref
12 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:54 AM
File:Sony - Vegas Pro 12 -- ShuttleXpress.pref
12 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:54 AM
File:Sony Video Capture - ShuttlePRO v2.pref
12 KB 4/4/2006 1:40:10 PM
File:Sony Video Capture - ShuttlePRO.pref
12 KB 4/4/2006 1:40:10 PM
File:Sony Video Capture - ShuttleXpress.pref
12 KB 4/4/2006 1:40:10 PM
File:Sony.Capture.dll
223 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:42 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.Archive.dll
108 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:18 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.DeviceExp.dll
288 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:46 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.ExternalVideoDevice.dll
102 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:46 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.FileExplorer.dll
245 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:52 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.SfBdMuxCom.dll
23 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:50 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.Skins.dll
78 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:38 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.TextGen.CoreGraphics.XmlSerializers.dll
443 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:00 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.TextGen.CoreGraphics.dll
790 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:00 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.TextGen.OFXInterop.dll
349 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:20 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.VideoEffectsUI.dll
1469 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:08 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.XDCAMExp.dll
419 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:16 PM
File:Sony.MediaSoftware.clrshared.dll
379 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:44 PM
File:Sony.Monitor3D.dll
69 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:08 PM
File:Sony.Vegas.MobileSync.dll
53 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:06 PM
File:Sony.Vegas.Publish.dll
70 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:50 PM
File:Sony.Vegas.RelinkSonyWirelessAdapterMedia.dll
20 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:28 PM
File:Sony.Vegas.RenderAs.dll
112 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:04 PM
File:Sony.Vegas.dll
382 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:52 PM
Standard Layouts
6/11/2015 4:45:38 PM
File:VIDCAP60.hlp
70 KB 8/7/2008 10:16:30 AM
Vidcap Plug-Ins
5/22/2014 3:25:38 AM
Video Hardware Drivers
6/11/2015 4:45:42 PM
Video Plug-Ins
6/11/2015 4:45:50 PM
File:WidgetLibrary.dll
708 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:14 PM
bdmux
6/11/2015 4:45:51 PM
File:dbghelp.dll
1306 KB 11/12/2014 11:58:18 AM
de
6/11/2015 4:45:50 PM
File:discdrv.dll
2791 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:56 PM
es
6/11/2015 4:45:52 PM
File:eula
48 KB 6/5/2015 5:20:05 PM
File:eula.dll
2567 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:28 PM
File:fargo.pdd.dll
2573 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:24 PM
File:ffplugsk64.dll
7922 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:54 PM
fr
6/11/2015 4:45:52 PM
File:gnsdk_correlates.dll
70 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_dsp.dll
3219 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_license.txt
1 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_link.dll
120 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_manager.dll
1005 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_musicid.dll
1080 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_musicid_file.dll
1169 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_musicid_match.dll
145 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_playlist.dll
271 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_sqlite.dll
725 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_submit.dll
299 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:gnsdk_video.dll
193 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
ja-JP
6/11/2015 4:45:52 PM
File:log4net.dll
240 KB 4/16/2014 10:14:16 AM
File:networkhost.dll
1295 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:40 PM
File:ngen.xml
1 KB 11/12/2014 11:59:52 AM
File:proDADMercalli20.dll
1704 KB 11/12/2014 11:53:50 AM
File:sfapprw.dll
3407 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:26 PM
File:sfcd.cdd.dll
1287 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:26 PM
File:sfcdfs.dll
2605 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:26 PM
File:sfcdix.cfg
182 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:10 AM
File:sfcdix.dll
4570 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:26 PM
File:sfcdsim.cdd.dll
25 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:26 PM
File:sfdvd.dll
3508 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:28 PM
File:sfld.ldd.dll
1506 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:28 PM
File:sfldsim.ldd.dll
2569 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:28 PM
File:sfmarket2.dll
2747 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:56 PM
File:sfprnsim.pdd.dll
2568 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:28 PM
File:sfpublish.dll
3354 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:32 PM
File:sfs4rw.dll
1594 KB 4/20/2010 10:19:48 AM
File:sfscsi.dll
2584 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:30 PM
File:sfspti.dll
54 KB 6/5/2015 4:51:30 PM
File:sftutor.dll
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File:sftutor60.dll
802 KB 4/20/2010 10:21:02 AM
File:sfvstwrap.dll
4971 KB 6/5/2015 4:52:36 PM
File:sonymvd2pro_xp.dll
644 KB 11/12/2014 11:45:26 AM
File:vegas.tut
24886 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:42 PM
File:vegas130.exe
37285 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:04 PM
File:vegas130.exe.config
1 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:48 PM
File:vegas130.oemdat
1 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:50 PM
File:vegas130.udat
323 KB 6/5/2015 5:20:05 PM
File:vegas130.zip
1 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:50 PM
File:vegas130k.dll
11810 KB 6/5/2015 4:53:04 PM
File:vegasdeu.tut
25116 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:42 PM
File:vegasesp.tut
25023 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:42 PM
File:vegasfra.tut
25100 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:42 PM
File:vegasjpn.tut
25137 KB 11/12/2014 12:01:44 PM
File:vidcap6.tut
48 KB 7/10/2007 2:01:16 AM
File:vidcap60.exe
4176 KB 4/20/2010 10:21:04 AM
File:vidcap60.udat
94 KB 4/4/2006 1:40:10 PM
x86
6/11/2015 4:45:48 PM

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If anyone sees a bad dll etc, that could make it easier to hunt down the problem.

Can't see Sony being able to sell Vegas until they fix this problem - probably best I check their site for possible updates.

I have a software company but am not willing to put a tech guy on this as it could easily take a day and cost a bundle.

The strategy is going to have to be to just wait for a solution
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Old September 20th, 2015, 09:03 AM   #63
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Are you saying you aren't using plugins in this project or you have no plugins installed at all?

Also, you didn't mention the video card you're using.

I recall a long while back someone had a similar problem that was caused by having an external drive referenced in the project that was not attached at the time of launching Vegas. That might be worth exploring.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 10:18 AM   #64
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No plug-ins, so far as I can see
That would be a problem. Sony Vegas is like a shell and can do nothing without plug-ins. It comes with a bunch of plug-ins included in the installation, so it is rather unlikely you donít have any plug-ins.

If you really have no plug-ins, you either need to reinstall Vegas or have a hardware problem that prevents Vegas from loading them (such as a failing hard disk) or your system does not satisfy all the hardware requirements Vegas needs (such as a video card that does not support the level of hardware acceleration the included plug-ins expect).

For example, I currently have an Asus laptop and cannot run Vegas 13 on it, even though all prior versions of Vegas run smoothly. I would need a different video adapter, but since it is a laptop I have no way of putting a different video adapter in it, I just opted not to upgrade to Vegas 13.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 01:12 PM   #65
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Looks like I have AMD Radeon HD 7600 Series

I did the standard install so not sure what add-ins I installed. Where would I go to see the list?
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Old September 20th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #66
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I did the standard install so not sure what add-ins I installed. Where would I go to see the list?
In the Video FX pane, all the effects are listed. All of them are plug-ins. If you scroll down the list, expand where it says Sony, and it will show you all the plug-ins/effects that came with Vegas. And if you expand where it says Third Party, it will list the rest of them.

Similarly, the Transitions pane lists all the transitions, which, too, are plug-ins. And again, you can see which ones are from Sony and which from a third party.

Additionally, you can click on the CC icon at the header of a video track. Then click Custom... and from the pop-up window you will be able to see the list of the composite mode plug-ins.

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Old September 21st, 2015, 04:26 PM   #67
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Thanks..

Unfortunately since I cannot load the app, I never get to see the list of plugins.

I may consider installing Vegas Pro 13 on an old PC running Windows 7 just to see the list of plug-ins.
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Old September 21st, 2015, 04:53 PM   #68
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You will be able to see which plugins are installed by running your earlier version of Vegas. Did you look at the external drive suggestion?
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Old September 21st, 2015, 06:14 PM   #69
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Unfortunately since I cannot load the app, I never get to see the list of plugins.
Well, you can always find the DLLs of all OFX plug-ins used. First of all, most third-party plug-ins will be in various subdirectories of C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins. In most cases each subdirectory will have another subdirectory named Contents, and that one will have a subdirectory named Win64 (for 64-bit plug-ins). Inside that directory shall be a file with the .ofx extension. That is a DLL and contains one or more plug-ins.

Additional plug-ins may be located at directories (with the same subdirectory tree) pointed at by the OFX_PLUGIN_PATH environment variable.

And the Vegas 13.0 specific OFX plug-ins follow the same tree in the C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 13.0\OFX Video Plug-Ins directory (or, \PathToVegas\OFX Video Plug-Ins if Vegas is installed somewhere else).

Temporarily moving any of them somewhere else might help determine whether any of them is preventing Vegas from running.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 06:46 AM   #70
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Re: Sony Vegas and Windows 10

Thanks, again...

I am close to solving the problem.

If I start up my machine and immediately load V13, it loads. If I allow other apps to start up first, then we get to where "Creating Windows" stalls.

If I give V13 a load priority, the problem may disappear,

Inconvenient,yes, because I only use Vegas a few times a week but putting the computer in sleep mode, may solve the problem.

I will provide updates over the next few days.
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