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Steven Davis · March 30th, 2016, 05:54 PM

So, I have three hour narration, straight talk. And when I rendered it WMV 3mbps, It came out to be 4.2gig. Just shy of the 4 gig usb. I went with WMV hoping the size and universality would be my ticket for broad pc playback for this project, i.e 'who knows what people will play it on' old machines, new machines etc.

Anyone had success with lower qualities to save on size?

Leslie Wand · March 30th, 2016, 06:14 PM

use mp4 via handbrake... never had a problem with it in years....

Mike Kujbida · March 31st, 2016, 07:38 AM

+1 for Handbrake. Now that you can easily frameserve to it from Vegas, it's a great tool that's even better :)
Vegas-2-HandBrake

Graham Bernard · April 1st, 2016, 12:53 AM

+ + For both Gents!

G

Steven Davis · April 1st, 2016, 07:21 AM

Thanks for the direction with Handbrake. Hey Mike, is that frameserver config as complicated as it looks?

Christopher Young · April 2nd, 2016, 06:51 PM

More + + + + 's for Handbrake

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

Mike Kujbida · April 3rd, 2016, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Thanks for the direction with Handbrake. Hey Mike, is that frameserver config as complicated as it looks?

Steven, I originally thought it would be but the instructions are very clear and I had it up and running in no time at all. Configuring Handbrake to get the results I wanted is a bit more complicated but there are numerous tutorials out there to help you.

Steven Davis · April 12th, 2016, 10:36 AM

Thanks for the input guys. My current project is a bulk drive delivery. I'm shooting for the best compatibility, so I was thinking WMV since I know it can be played on almost all pcs.

Pete Cofrancesco · April 12th, 2016, 01:02 PM

Why would you use a 4gb usb drive given it's only 3.7gb, smaller than a dvd. I would encode it as mpeg 2 since that's the codec that dvds use. Or use mpeg 4 suggested by others which can compress a video more. By the way Windows Media Player is no longer included in Windows 8 and 10 and has been discontinued.

Steven Davis · April 12th, 2016, 01:19 PM

I have 5 hours of final footage, so I'm probably between 8 and 16 gig depending.

Adam Stanislav · April 13th, 2016, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Davis

I'm shooting for the best compatibility, so I was thinking WMV since I know it can be played on almost all pcs.

If you want the best compatibility, forget WMV altogether. It is an early series of mutually incompatible formats developed by Microsoft for the late 20th Century versions of Windows. It relies heavily on having a specific codec installed on every PC. Even Microsoft has pretty much abandoned the WMV formats by now, so chances are people having the latest versions on Windows will not be able to play it. And of course people with other operating systems (Mac, BSD, Linux, etc) will not be able to play it. And people will not be able to download it to their cell phones and other portable devices.

For actual portability, you should use MPEG-4 for compression and MP4 for the file container (and, as others have suggested, use Handbrake to create it), as just about any computer device on the planet can play it. And it is an official international standard, not a proprietary concoction like WMV. It also compresses video very well.

Andrew Smith · April 13th, 2016, 02:58 PM

I dare say that WMV is getting to the point of how I used to view the RealMedia/RealVideo format files. The best thing you can do is to convert it to another format.

Agree on going with mp4.

Andrew

Steven Davis · April 13th, 2016, 03:03 PM

Woa, I haven't thought about Real Media in eons.

Mark Holmes · April 16th, 2016, 03:46 PM

It makes the most sense, to me, to compress to Sony AVC/AAC and burn to a larger USB. I do this for delivery often, for 2-3hr shows shot at 1080p. The Sony AVC codec is recognized by both Mac and Windows, and also plays fine when plugged into most TVs USB ports.

Just make sure you format the flash drive to EXFAT, so that files over 4GB in size will drop onto it. It's a 10 second process on my Mac in the Disk Utility app.

Steven Davis · June 29th, 2017, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Holmes

It makes the most sense, to me, to compress to Sony AVC/AAC and burn to a larger USB. I do this for delivery often, for 2-3hr shows shot at 1080p. The Sony AVC codec is recognized by both Mac and Windows, and also plays fine when plugged into most TVs USB ports.

Just make sure you format the flash drive to EXFAT, so that files over 4GB in size will drop onto it. It's a 10 second process on my Mac in the Disk Utility app.

Hey Mark, what size drive/ bit rate are you getting 2-3 hours on? I currently have printed 8gig drives.

March 30th, 2016, 05:54 PM	#1
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Squishing it onto a USB So, I have three hour narration, straight talk. And when I rendered it WMV 3mbps, It came out to be 4.2gig. Just shy of the 4 gig usb. I went with WMV hoping the size and universality would be my ticket for broad pc playback for this project, i.e 'who knows what people will play it on' old machines, new machines etc. Anyone had success with lower qualities to save on size? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

March 30th, 2016, 06:14 PM	#2
Leslie Wand Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: upper hunter, australia Posts: 1,410	Re: Squishing it onto a USB use mp4 via handbrake... never had a problem with it in years.... __________________ www.lesliewand.com.au

March 31st, 2016, 07:38 AM	#3
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Re: Squishing it onto a USB +1 for Handbrake. Now that you can easily frameserve to it from Vegas, it's a great tool that's even better :) Vegas-2-HandBrake

April 1st, 2016, 12:53 AM	#4
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Re: Squishing it onto a USB + + For both Gents! G

April 1st, 2016, 07:21 AM	#5
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Squishing it onto a USB Thanks for the direction with Handbrake. Hey Mike, is that frameserver config as complicated as it looks? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 2nd, 2016, 06:51 PM	#6
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,528	Re: Squishing it onto a USB More + + + + 's for Handbrake Chris Young CYV Productions Sydney

April 12th, 2016, 10:36 AM	#8
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Squishing it onto a USB Thanks for the input guys. My current project is a bulk drive delivery. I'm shooting for the best compatibility, so I was thinking WMV since I know it can be played on almost all pcs. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 12th, 2016, 01:02 PM	#9
Pete Cofrancesco Inner Circle Join Date: May 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,995	Re: Squishing it onto a USB Why would you use a 4gb usb drive given it's only 3.7gb, smaller than a dvd. I would encode it as mpeg 2 since that's the codec that dvds use. Or use mpeg 4 suggested by others which can compress a video more. By the way Windows Media Player is no longer included in Windows 8 and 10 and has been discontinued.

April 12th, 2016, 01:19 PM	#10
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Squishing it onto a USB I have 5 hours of final footage, so I'm probably between 8 and 16 gig depending. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 13th, 2016, 02:58 PM	#12
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,016	Re: Squishing it onto a USB I dare say that WMV is getting to the point of how I used to view the RealMedia/RealVideo format files. The best thing you can do is to convert it to another format. Agree on going with mp4. Andrew

April 13th, 2016, 03:03 PM	#13
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Squishing it onto a USB Woa, I haven't thought about Real Media in eons. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 16th, 2016, 03:46 PM	#14
Mark Holmes Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 119	Re: Squishing it onto a USB It makes the most sense, to me, to compress to Sony AVC/AAC and burn to a larger USB. I do this for delivery often, for 2-3hr shows shot at 1080p. The Sony AVC codec is recognized by both Mac and Windows, and also plays fine when plugged into most TVs USB ports. Just make sure you format the flash drive to EXFAT, so that files over 4GB in size will drop onto it. It's a 10 second process on my Mac in the Disk Utility app. __________________ Mark Holmes www.daisy3pictures.com