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Old November 28th, 2016, 12:47 AM   #1
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Until Nov 30.....I might buy it just to make 4K HVEC files. :-)

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Old November 28th, 2016, 10:12 AM   #2
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You can make them using libx265 in FFmpeg too, but I guess Vegas is more convenient.

Avoid Handbrake. It never converts to a constant framerate properly.
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Old November 28th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #3
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Until Nov 30.....I might buy it just to make 4K HVEC files. :-)

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I hope not! HVEC has something to do with the polio virus (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliov...ptor-related_1). ;) HEVC, on the other hand… :-)

Yes, you can make 4k HEVC files with Vegas 14, but the only option I see for that is inside a .mov file.

I am testing it right now and it appears to be about three times slower than rendering the same project to a standard MP4 file, though I won’t really know until the rendering finishes.
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Old November 28th, 2016, 02:01 PM   #4
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Vegas Edit is $149, I assume..
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Old November 28th, 2016, 02:18 PM   #5
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OK, it finished rendering to HEVC/.mov. It took four times as long as the MP4 files I made of it before. The size of the MP4 was 2,302,094 kB, the size of the HEVC/.mov is 380,094 kB.

It was configured to render it to the average bit rate of 40 Mb/s, with the maximum of 80 Mb/s. It actually rendered it to 10.1 Mb/s and it looks terrible. That is a 3840x2160 video at 24 fps.

In comparison, when I exported it to MP4 earlier, I then use HandBrake for further compression, which gave me another MP4, sized 809,145 kB, with a bit rate of 21.5 Mb/s and a nominal bit rate of 37.0 Mb/s.

So, if the only reason for upgrading is so you can use HEVC, hold your pennies!

If curious, I uploaded the project as processed by HandBrake to YouTube (which presumably did further processing of its own):

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Old November 28th, 2016, 02:57 PM   #6
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Sounds like I will take Vegas of of my HVAC processing list! The menu options in Handbrake have always confused me...maybe I will give ffmpeg a try. Handbrake also can too easily render out (5 hours later) an h265 4K file which is like all black...ugh.

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Old November 28th, 2016, 06:28 PM   #7
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TMPGenc Mastering Works 6 will also encode HEVC and even use the latest Intel CPU's that support encoding with Quicksync http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tvmw6.html

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Old December 3rd, 2016, 01:44 PM   #8
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So, what are the big differences between the three options for renewal?

IM STILL ON 12, BUT WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE UPGRADE.
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Old December 4th, 2016, 01:32 PM   #9
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So, what are the big differences between the three options for renewal?
See Product comparison for that. At any rate, Vegas Edit is just Vegas, Vegas Pro is Vegas plus DVD Architect plus some third party plugins, and Vegas Pro Suite is the same as Vegas Pro plus additional third party plugins.
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Old December 4th, 2016, 05:54 PM   #10
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I should add that many of those plugins are from NewBlue, and you cannot activate them unless you create an account with TrueBlue. Had I known that in advance, I would have just gone for the Edit version. I am absolutely not interested in giving my email address to third parties.
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Old December 4th, 2016, 10:03 PM   #11
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Oh, the irony!

I have decided to, what the heck, register with New Blue, just to find out I had bought two of their filters in the past (or maybe they were just included in an earlier Vegas version?), Motion Effects and Motion Blends. So instead of registering, I requested a new password, logged in, downloaded and installed those, got the serial numbers from the web site, registered them, and then registered the ones I got with Vegas 14 Pro Suite.
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